Cobol - Re: OT (Maybe): ERPs

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Re: OT (Maybe): ERPs

steve.t

2005-01-27, 8:55 am

Robert:

Define success rather than deflecting.

Next, if you want to argue architecture, I'm ready. Be forwarned that I
have other than mainframes in my tool box and that I actually have
written microcode.

Come to think of it, didn't you kinda get into this with me about 2
years ago when I was too busy to engage you in your drivel? But then,
what with me being in the industry for over 30 years, maybe I'm having
another of those senior moments.

Steve.T

Richard

2005-01-29, 3:55 pm

>>> That's true in this case. Others said the file had been sent, or is
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> Ordinarily, I might dig through the archives for substantiation. At
> the moment I'm in the midst of a move to the frozen North
> (Minneapolis) so don't have the time.

Yeah, right.

Actually I _did_ have a search before I posted that 'you make stuff
up', and I did find a reference to 'a file being sent monthly', but
this was an aside and was not from someone who asked about how to
determine the format.
You were just

, but it doesn't stop you being adamant.

Robert Wagner

2005-01-30, 3:55 am

On 29 Jan 2005 13:36:44 -0800, "Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote:

>
>'Shrink-wrap' is the 'old' way of distributing software, very 80s.

I use 'shrink-wrap' to mean commercial packaged software sold retail
to a single end-user, installed with minimal configuration. It
includes packages distributed by mail order and download, excludes
open source and shareware because they're non-commercial.

I'm surprised at how much IS sold the old way. Last w

my smallish
local Wal-Mart had a display with 500 copies of TurboTax.

>OTOH a quick survey shows about a third to be 'PS/2' and does not run
>on Windows. ;-)

Yes, they do. There are good free emulators for PlayStation 2, XBox,
Atari, Nintendo and every other game box.

More interesting, there are emulators running _on the XBox_ for every
game machine made, including a DOS PC. The XBox can do Samba shares
with Unix, and it can mount a console on Windows or Linux/KDE. Of
historic interest, it can emulate a Commodore 64. Apple ][, PET,
Amiga, Vic-20, etc. These emulators are developed on Windows, then
easily ported to the XBox.

If you think these machines are toys, consider this. It is illegal to
export 'supercomputers' from the US to certain countries, which
include India and China. When the PS2 came out in 2000, the threshold
for supercomputer was 2 gflops. The PS2 ran at 6.4 gflops. So they
raised the bar to 7, then 28. In 2001, it was raised to 85; in 2002,
to 195. I don't know where it stands now, on a guess 800. For
comparison, a typical Intel desktop runs 5 gflops, as does an IBM
mainframe, per processor. The fastest single processor today is an
Apple G5, which runs 15 gflops. High-end video cards go up to 40,
using multiple processors. When the PS3 is released later this year
(development machines are already in use), its rumored speed will be
1,000 gflops! If you want the speed of a mainframe with 200 CPUs,
don't call IBM, visit the 'toy' department at Wal-Mart.

You'll be pleased to know XBox, PS2 and PS3 are already running Linux.
A home computer based on XBox with a big disk, high speed networking
and no Microsoft code can be built today for less than $500. Using
Wine, it can run Windows programs.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-948493.html?tag=nl

Robert Wagner

2005-01-31, 3:55 pm

On 31 Jan 2005 09:04:41 -0800, "steve.t" <sthompson@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>Almost all of the failed Siebel migrations were attempts to move from a
>mainframe oriented environment. As near as I can tell, they are all
>destined to failure because the mainframe is more easily able to deal
>with huge quantities of data and user I/O demand. Add to this the
>intersystem communications, and the hardware thrown together to attack
>the mainframe environment collapses under its own weight.

I worked on a project to move a payroll/HR system from mainframe
running assembly language to PeopleSoft. It was, by far, the largest
payroll that had been put on PeopleSoft -- 400,000 active employees
being paid w

ly. Mainframers predicted failure.

The w

ly check run took two hours on two fire-breathing mainframes
with about 60 processors each. The first test run on
PeopleSoft/Informix took about 28 hours. Mainframers laughed. We split
the database into 24 partitions running on 24 servers. The second run
took about two hours. Mainframers stopped laughing and started looking
worried. The new system went live on-time and on-budget. Computer
expense was drastically reduced.

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