| Robert Wagner 2005-01-10, 3:55 pm |
| On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:29:45 -0600, LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>Peter Lacey wrote:
>
>Often, just the presence of a gun can deter criminal activity - and
>states with concealed-carry policies have lower rates of violent crimes.
> Check #4 on this link...
>
>http://www.cato.org/dailys/05-13-00.html
"4. States that allow registered citizens to carry concealed weapons
have lower crime rates than those that don't.
True. The 31 states that have "shall issue" laws allowing private
citizens to carry concealed weapons have, on average, a 24 percent
lower violent crime rate, a 19 percent lower murder rate and a 39
percent lower robbery rate than states that forbid concealed weapons.
In fact, the nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all
right-to-carry states. Remarkably, guns are used for self-defense more
than 2 million times a year, three to five times the estimated number
of violent crimes committed with guns."
That's NOT true. Let's look at New York, which has the strictest gun
laws, compared to Texas, which has the loosest.
"In the year 2000 New York had an estimated population of 18,976,457
which ranked the state 3rd in population. For that year the State of
New York had a total Crime Index of 3,099.6 reported incidents per
100,000 people. This ranked the state as having the 40th highest total
Crime Index. For Violent Crime New York had a reported incident rate
of 553.9 per 100,000 people. This ranked the state as having the 12th
highest occurrence for Violent Crime among the states. For crimes
against Property, the state had a reported incident rate of 2,545.7
per 100,000 people, which ranked as the state 45th highest. Also in
the year 2000 New York had 5.0 Murders per 100,000 people, ranking the
state as having the 23rd highest rate for Murder.
In the year 2000 Texas had an estimated population of 20,851,820 which
ranked the state 2nd in population. For that year the State of Texas
had a total Crime Index of 4,955.5 reported incidents per 100,000
people. This ranked the state as having the 8th highest total Crime
Index. For Violent Crime Texas had a reported incident rate of 545.1
per 100,000 people. This ranked the state as having the 13th highest
occurrence for Violent Crime among the states. For crimes against
Property, the state had a reported incident rate of 4,410.4 per
100,000 people, which ranked as the state 10th highest. Also in the
year 2000 Texas had 5.9 Murders per 100,000 people, ranking the state
as having the 17th highest rate for Murder."
Because you're in Alabama, which also has liberal gun laws:
"In the year 2000 Alabama had an estimated population of 4,447,100
which ranked the state 23rd in population. For that year the State of
Alabama had a total Crime Index of 4,545.9 reported incidents per
100,000 people. This ranked the state as having the 15th highest total
Crime Index. For Violent Crime Alabama had a reported incident rate of
486.2 per 100,000 people. This ranked the state as having the 20th
highest occurrence for Violent Crime among the states. For crimes
against Property, the state had a reported incident rate of 4,059.7
per 100,000 people, which ranked as the state 15th highest. Also in
the year 2000 Alabama had 7.4 Murders per 100,000 people, ranking the
state as having the 6th highest rate for Murder."
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/alcrime.htm
The idea that gun ownership is a deterrent to crime is a fiction.
Statistics have never shown that to be true.They show that Bubba,
pissed becase his wife is screwing the neighbor, participates in a
crime of passion that wouldn't have occurred sans firearms.
I've shown that more than 50% of firearm deaths result from crimes of
passion rather than premeditated or criminal activities. When you add
accidents and suicides, the total goes to more than 80%.
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