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Cobol compilers with free deployment of App
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| Sanjay Minni 2004-07-15, 3:55 pm |
| Which commercial COBOL compilers / products allow
free & unlimited deployment of the applications developed
(Win platforms) assuming that a database engine will be used
for storage, i.e. no ISAM or COBOL files (if that makes a difference)
Regards
Sanjay Minni
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| JerryMouse 2004-07-15, 3:55 pm |
| Sanjay Minni wrote:
> Which commercial COBOL compilers / products allow
> free & unlimited deployment of the applications developed
> (Win platforms) assuming that a database engine will be used
> for storage, i.e. no ISAM or COBOL files (if that makes a difference)
>
> Regards
> Sanjay Minni
Fujitsu
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| Sanjay Minni 2004-07-16, 3:55 am |
| None of the others in any manner whatsover ?
Is Fujitsu suitable for commercial grade mass deployable apps in win
platforms and does it compare well with others
- Productivity of developers
- Features
- GUI based apps
- OO implementation
(Long back in the DOS days we used another well known product)
Regards
Sanjay Minni
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> Sanjay Minni wrote:
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> Fujitsu
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| Frederico Fonseca 2004-07-16, 3:55 am |
| On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:54:11 +0530, "Sanjay Minni"
<sminni_news@minisoftindia.com> wrote:
Top posting corrected
>"JerryMouse" <nospam@bisusa.com> wrote in message
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>None of the others in any manner whatsover ?
RM - runtime charge
MF - runtime charge
ACUCOBOl - runtime charge (and development license is HIGH, probably
higher and MF. I was quoted 13000 UKP with a ISV contract for 6
developers (Windows). Ouch||)
>Is Fujitsu suitable for commercial grade mass deployable apps in win
>platforms and does it compare well with others
> - Productivity of developers
Depends.
If using POWER-COBOL it's very small compared to others.
If not it is as with any other.
> - Features
Average
> - GUI based apps
It uses it's own GUI development environment = POWER COBOL.
It is a pain to develop with this.
It is better to leave it alone and use the "normal" COBOL with a
screen tool such as SP2 from www.flexus.com
> - OO implementation
I would say the same as others that have it. Don't think they are
following the 2002 standard yet, but should be near enough.
>(Long back in the DOS days we used another well known product)
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>Regards
>Sanjay Minni
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Frederico Fonseca
ema il: frederico_fonseca at syssoft-int.com
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| Charles Godwin 2004-07-16, 3:55 pm |
| "Sanjay Minni" <sminni_news@minisoftindia.com> wrote in message news:<2lnn8hFejncsU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Which commercial COBOL compilers / products allow
> free & unlimited deployment of the applications developed
> (Win platforms) assuming that a database engine will be used
> for storage, i.e. no ISAM or COBOL files (if that makes a difference)
>
> Regards
> Sanjay Minni
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Computer Associates has NO runtime licenses for compiled programs.
This includes programs that use Indexed files (VSAM).
The product name is AllFusion CA-Realia II Workbench. Full info is
available at
http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Product.asp?ID=1475
I am the development manager for this product at CA.
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| Michael Mattias 2004-07-16, 3:55 pm |
| > "Sanjay Minni" <sminni_news@minisoftindia.com> wrote in message
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Gee, I wouldn't know without doing the research work.
Why don't you tell us which compilers you have checked out and we'll see if
you missed any of the "biggies."
MCM
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| Sanjay Minni 2004-07-16, 3:55 pm |
| What is the pricing for the product ?
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> Computer Associates has NO runtime licenses for compiled programs.
> This includes programs that use Indexed files (VSAM).
> The product name is AllFusion CA-Realia II Workbench. Full info is
> available at
> http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Product.asp?ID=1475
>
> I am the development manager for this product at CA.
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| Sanjay Minni 2004-07-16, 3:55 pm |
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> Why don't you tell us which compilers you have checked out and we'll see
if
> you missed any of the "biggies."
OK all the biggies I have been looking at has been mentioned in another
response
Personally I have worked on MF long back (when it was repackaged by MS)
and liked it
Also There was a Visualage COBOL (IBM) which has not been mentioned
SM
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| Frederico Fonseca <real-email-in-msg-spam@email.com> wrote in
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4ax.com:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:54:11 +0530, "Sanjay Minni"
> <sminni_news@minisoftindia.com> wrote:
>
> Top posting corrected
>
> RM - runtime charge
> MF - runtime charge
> ACUCOBOl - runtime charge (and development license is HIGH, probably
> higher and MF. I was quoted 13000 UKP with a ISV contract for 6
> developers (Windows). Ouch||)
> Depends.
> If using POWER-COBOL it's very small compared to others.
> If not it is as with any other.
> Average
> It uses it's own GUI development environment = POWER COBOL.
> It is a pain to develop with this.
>
> It is better to leave it alone and use the "normal" COBOL with a
> screen tool such as SP2 from www.flexus.com
>
> I would say the same as others that have it. Don't think they are
> following the 2002 standard yet, but should be near enough.
>
>
>
> Frederico Fonseca
> ema il: frederico_fonseca at syssoft-int.com
>
I wonder, why PowerCobol is a pain to develop. I hear a lot of that sort
of remarks. Untill now I only develop applications in PoswerCobol. Large
packages, pensionfunds, but also small packages sold to a broader
public. Accounting, CRM and time management.
I hear a lot of complaints about all kind of problems programming in
PowerCobol. In 1998 I started with PowerCobol (from Microfocus DOS
environment), and I can do anything with it.
As I always read your posts, and see that you are an expert on it, could
you tell me what the main problems are for programmers to use
PowerCobol? I research this, because I'm constantly s ing collegues to
create a network for continuity. Untill now I have had no success.
ps.
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| Thane Hubbell 2004-07-21, 3:55 pm |
| Visualage for COBOL has no runtime fees but some "strange" rules about
how things must be named to (apparently) obscure the fact that the
runtime is IBM.
"Sanjay Minni" <sminni_news@minisoftindia.com> wrote in message news:<2lqchhFfrrktU2@uni-berlin.de>...
> if
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> OK all the biggies I have been looking at has been mentioned in another
> response
> Personally I have worked on MF long back (when it was repackaged by MS)
> and liked it
>
> Also There was a Visualage COBOL (IBM) which has not been mentioned
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> SM
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| Stephen Plotnick 2004-07-26, 3:55 am |
| Relia Advantage COBOL (Workbench 3.2) does not have a fee to redistribute
applications that you develop.
"ps" <my@e.mail> wrote in message news:Xns952982C61C945ps@194.109.133.20...
> Frederico Fonseca <real-email-in-msg-spam@email.com> wrote in
> news:g10ff0dlbj4aats4r318nqm7aneam5n7ut@
4ax.com:
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> I wonder, why PowerCobol is a pain to develop. I hear a lot of that sort
> of remarks. Untill now I only develop applications in PoswerCobol. Large
> packages, pensionfunds, but also small packages sold to a broader
> public. Accounting, CRM and time management.
> I hear a lot of complaints about all kind of problems programming in
> PowerCobol. In 1998 I started with PowerCobol (from Microfocus DOS
> environment), and I can do anything with it.
>
> As I always read your posts, and see that you are an expert on it, could
> you tell me what the main problems are for programmers to use
> PowerCobol? I research this, because I'm constantly sing collegues to
> create a network for continuity. Untill now I have had no success.
>
> ps.
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| Charles Godwin 2004-07-26, 3:55 pm |
| I am not in a position to provide pricing. Please contact your local
CA sales office. I have inferred from your email that you may be
situated in India, if so refer to this page for contact information
http://ca.com/offices/india/contact/
If you're in the USA contact CA at http://ca.com/offices/usa/
Charles Godwin
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> What is the pricing for the product ?
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