Cobol - Re: OT: whatever (was: demise of COBOL WAS: Infinite Loops and Explicit

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Re: OT: whatever (was: demise of COBOL WAS: Infinite Loops and Explicit

docdwarf@panix.com

2004-11-19, 3:55 pm

In article <Yggnd.780$3K3.85@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>Since you replied to yourself, I'll just reply to this one, and get 'em
>both at the same time... :)
>
>William M. Klein wrote:
>
>Slavery back 2,000 years ago what something quite different from slavery
>in this country up to the "War of Northern Aggression". ;) Most
>owners, from what I've read about the period, were more gracious and
>took better care of their "slaves" than the folks did over here.

Ahhhhhh, for the Oldene Dayse, when a Master could be so kind to his
slaves such as *ten* Masters cannot, today!

>And,
>slaves weren't harvested from another continent and forced into slavery
>against their will. Yes, slaves were still viewed as property, but as
>such, property that needed to be cared for, to maximize output.

Ummmmm... doesn't the fact that no matter how good the treatment might
have been... THEY WERE STILL SLAVES (pardon the emphasis) have any
applicability?

You seem to be saying 'Oh, as long as you treat 'em good slavery ain't so
bad'; I was taught that slavery is a horror, an abomination and an
anathema to the mind of a free man.

('The mark of a true slave is not that he wants his freedom, the mark of a
true slave is that he wants a slave of his own.' - Sir Richard Burton)

>
>These days, machinery makes it possible for a much smaller number of
>people to accomplish what it used to take teams of slaves to do. And,
>because of the freedom we have in this country, these people are now
>either employees, or the owners themselves. I believe that the free
>market would have ended slavery much less bloodily than the Civil War
>did. I also think that Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation was
>a good thing. (And remember, Lincoln was a Republican....)
>
>
>Notice the last phrase of that passage - "from the heart". He says we
>should act like "slaves of Christ", but then that we do these works
>"from the heart". That's a very good picture of how slaves felt during
>the time this was written.

Leaving aside how one can make statements about how another feels... it
can be readily argued that if slaves did, in fact, feel this way then
there'd be no need to tell them to treat their earthly owners as they
treat their god.

[snip]

>Like I said above, I'm glad slavery is gone. Even when it was done
>humanely, there were no checks and balances that ensured that it would
>continue that way.

Gah... 'even when it was done humanely' IT IS STILL SLAVERY (pardon the
emphasis).

DD

LX-i

2004-11-24, 3:55 am

docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
> ('The mark of a true slave is not that he wants his freedom, the mark of a
> true slave is that he wants a slave of his own.' - Sir Richard Burton)

Sounds like a good argument for subcontracting, no? ;)

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docdwarf@panix.com

2004-11-24, 8:55 am

In article <LSTod.1965$_6.198@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
>
>Sounds like a good argument for subcontracting, no? ;)

That depends on the difference in the responsibilities one has towards a
slave versus those one has towards a subcontractor... these things can get
complicated.

DD

LX-i

2004-11-26, 3:55 am

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