Clipper - sound

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Thomas Venus

2006-08-01, 3:55 am

Hi Folks,
i noticed a problem with the clipper TONE() function.
On some XP-Boxes clipper-apps with the TONE() function
produce sound and on other XP-Boxes the very same app does
not produce any sound.
Does anyone have a solution/explanation to that problem?
Thx in advance
Thomas

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Stephen Quinn

2006-08-01, 3:55 am

Thomas

> Does anyone have a solution/explanation to that problem?
Maybe they've cut the wires to the speaker.

Apps that keep beeping at me drive me around the bend, cutting the wires is a
good way of stopping the beeps.
or
I just might get rid of the app (saves me replacing hardware or trying to locate
my cutters<g> )

CYA
Steve

Thomas Venus

2006-08-01, 3:55 am

Steve,
nice answer <g>, but do you have a serious one also.
Speakers on all machines are ok.
Unfortunally i can't get rid of all the old apps. Still
need some of them, till they are replaced by VO Apps.
thx
Thomas

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Stephen Quinn

2006-08-01, 6:55 pm

Thomas

Sorry no - I've only ever had one machine that didn't beep.

Finding out whatever the problem was, wasn't a high priority for me.

You've probably already checked, could the connection to the motherboard be on
the wrong pins??

CYA
Steve

sebas22

2006-08-01, 6:55 pm

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:49:41 +0200, "Thomas Venus"
<venus-removethis-@wm-schmuck.de> wrote:

>Steve,
>nice answer <g>, but do you have a serious one also.

His answer was not so sily, I too don't like much apps that beep :-)

>Speakers on all machines are ok.

Maybe it's a pb with XP, in my case for example, my XP box wasn't
playing system sound anymore,(ex : winmx sounds or amsn sounds, even
if I choose my own *.wav), but plays those *.wav if I open them with
winamp for example. I tried everythg, even reinstall windows sound
codec. The only solution was to reinstall windows, and it started
again after 15 days (still unsolved)

Try to substitute tone() by RUN wav.exe beep.wav
or#translate it
#translate tone() => _run("wav.exe beep.wav")

You'll find the freeware wav.exe on www.alvidente.com/clipper.html

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HTH
Sebas

Robert Haley

2006-08-01, 6:55 pm

Greetings Thomas,

Most likely the sound card -> sound card Driver -> (PC speaker driver)
is sharing the same IRQ assignment w/ other installed devices, e.g. Win
Modem, NIC, USB Card, Video Card - this has the tendency to (disable)
the PC speaker sound driver.

You can try attempting to change the IRQ assignments of any shared
devices via system BIOS Setup, in conjunction with physically
removing/installing a suspect device to test for positive effect. Note
that Windows XP may not automatically reassign IRQ's depending on the
type of installation on the first cold-boot attempt, you may need to
start/shutdown the system 2x/or more times, ideally a "clean" XP
installation on a test machine (with limited installed devices) may be
required to fully determine the root cause of the issue.

Another IMPORTANT Note: altering the (current) XP system configuration
via hardware / IRQ assignment changes may trigger Windows XP / 2003 to
revert back to (validation) mode - you may have to re-validate the XP
installation, be sure you have your Windows XP/2k3 install license key
available, prior to attempting any of the above.

I hope the info helps.

Best Regards,
Bob

Thomas Venus wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> i noticed a problem with the clipper TONE() function.
> On some XP-Boxes clipper-apps with the TONE() function
> produce sound and on other XP-Boxes the very same app does
> not produce any sound.
> Does anyone have a solution/explanation to that problem?
> Thx in advance
> Thomas
>
>
> --

sebas22

2006-08-01, 6:55 pm

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:44:11 -0300, sebas22 <nospam@x.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:49:41 +0200, "Thomas Venus"
><venus-removethis-@wm-schmuck.de> wrote:
>
>
>His answer was not so sily, I too don't like much apps that beep :-)
>
>
BTW, did you chack the PC beep in the volume control window, sometime
it's muted ?
(control panel / sound / advanced, then if the control "PC-beep"
doesn't appear, menu Option / Properties

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Regards
Sebas

Norman Perelson

2006-08-01, 9:55 pm

"Thomas Venus" <venus-removethis-@wm-schmuck.de> wrote in message
news:ean05k$ar2$00$1@news.t-online.com...
> Hi Folks,
> i noticed a problem with the clipper TONE() function.
> On some XP-Boxes clipper-apps with the TONE() function
> produce sound and on other XP-Boxes the very same app does
> not produce any sound.
> Does anyone have a solution/explanation to that problem?
> Thx in advance
> Thomas
>
Clipper uses the speaker attached to the computer's main board. Some new
computers may not have these speakers installed. Does the computer beep
when booting?

HTH
--
Norman Perelson
www.shopkeeper.co.za

Thomas Venus

2006-08-02, 7:55 am

Thank you all,
for your answers.
The problem still isn't solved. I think it must be a driver
or setting problem on the machines involved.
On some XP machines the clipper TONE() sounds play just
normally over the soundcard and the attached speakers. I
did not make any special settings on those machines. On
others the clipper-sound do not play but normal Windows
sounds do play.
I think maybe it's a problem of the soundcard or its driver.
Was hoping that anyone of you says: "Yeah, i know that
problem. Click on that switch XYZ.. and it's solved."
Still searching for an answer.
Thanks again
Thomas

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Norman Perelson

2006-08-02, 7:55 am

"Thomas Venus" <venus-removethis-@wm-schmuck.de> wrote in message
news:eapi3i$b8b$02$1@news.t-online.com...
> Thank you all,
> for your answers.
> The problem still isn't solved. I think it must be a driver
> or setting problem on the machines involved.
> On some XP machines the clipper TONE() sounds play just
> normally over the soundcard and the attached speakers. I
> did not make any special settings on those machines. On
> others the clipper-sound do not play but normal Windows
> sounds do play.
> I think maybe it's a problem of the soundcard or its driver.
> Was hoping that anyone of you says: "Yeah, i know that
> problem. Click on that switch XYZ.. and it's solved."
> Still searching for an answer.
> Thanks again
> Thomas
>
Thomas,

As I said before, Clipper only sends sounds to the speaker built into the
main board. The fact that on some computers Clipper plays the sound through
the soundcard system is because those main boards are channeling the
'phantom' speaker signal to the more advanced sound system.

You didn't answer my question: Does the computer beep when booting? Maybe
Stephen is right and they've cut the wires to the (internal) speaker. If it
doesn't beep when booting, it's not likely to play Clipper sounds either.

If you really must have sound on those "broken" computers, google for ways
to play .WAV files.

--
Norman Perelson
http://www.shopkeeper.co.za

Thomas Venus

2006-08-02, 7:55 am

Norman,
thx for your interest in my problem.
Now I checked 3 computers

No. 1 does play clipper-sounds. It has no internal speaker on the
motherbord, sound and graphics are integrated on the motherboard. It
does Beep at Startup through the soundcard connected speakers.

No. 2 does not play clipper-sounds. Also no speaker on the motherboard
and integrated sound/graphics. It does not beep at startup, first thing
you hear is the windows welcome melody.

No. 3 my Notebook, same behaviour as No.2

Thomas

Stephen Quinn

2006-08-02, 9:55 pm

Thomas

> No. 1 does play clipper-sounds. It has no internal speaker on the motherbord
The speaker in question is usually attached to the case and has a 4 pin
connector (2 wires) to the motherboard.

> No. 2 does not play clipper-sounds. Also no speaker on the motherboard
> and integrated sound/graphics. It does not beep at startup, first thing
> you hear is the windows welcome melody.
The welcome song comes through the inbuilt audio on the motherboard or a
soundcard if one's installed
- I've never heard it through the case speaker

> No. 3 my Notebook, same behaviour as No.2
AFAIK Notebooks use the inbuilt audio
- no separate speaker to speak of<g>

HTH
Steve

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