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| Martin 2005-02-22, 8:55 am |
| Some of the C++ news groups.
Can't remember exact group but it was unpleasant - they never help!!!!
While looking for a problem with C I was using Google groups - looking for
answers and if you mentioned MS Visual C++ you get you head ripped off!
I have had dealings in the past with some of these persons but never usefull
ones because if you are not a MS hating guru you get insulted and abused.
Now compare that to here - friendly advice and no head ripping off!
All my C programming is to do with integration to various flavours of XBASE
all use MS C - eg 5.1 for Clipper 5.2 and MSC8 (VC1.5) for Clipper 5.3
BTW my problem involved the fact I had forced a /P for precompiled code and
it broke the compiler and the only way to remove it was editing the project
with a hex editor!!!!
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| frank van nuffel 2005-02-22, 3:55 pm |
| Martin,
Just add comp.lang.c to the list of nominees
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...s.nl%26rnum%3D1
Not only does their FAQ merely omit the portability requirement, but no one even bothered to point that out; they prefered just shooting wildly. Not to mention they had no clue what the code does (compiled for Borland C++ 3.0) at that point, and that it works properly for the task it was to take care of, considered it to be compiled with (non-portable) BC++ 3.x Just wasn't about to let me be fooled with.
frank
"Martin" wrote
> Some of the C++ news groups.
>
> Can't remember exact group but it was unpleasant - they never help!!!!
>
> While looking for a problem with C I was using Google groups - looking for
> answers and if you mentioned MS Visual C++ you get you head ripped off!
>
> I have had dealings in the past with some of these persons but never usefull
> ones because if you are not a MS hating guru you get insulted and abused.
>
> Now compare that to here - friendly advice and no head ripping off!
>
> All my C programming is to do with integration to various flavours of XBASE
> all use MS C - eg 5.1 for Clipper 5.2 and MSC8 (VC1.5) for Clipper 5.3
>
> BTW my problem involved the fact I had forced a /P for precompiled code and
> it broke the compiler and the only way to remove it was editing the project
> with a hex editor!!!!
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| infobahn 2005-02-22, 3:55 pm |
| frank van nuffel wrote:
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> Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
> Encoding: quoted-printable
Please don't post attachments. Thanks.
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| frank van nuffel 2005-02-22, 3:55 pm |
| "infobahn" <infobahn@btinternet.com>
wrote in message news:421B5489.4A663697@btinternet.com...
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> Please don't post attachments. Thanks.
..oO html news won't make it into google archive;
just avoiding recursive links
frank
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| Mark McIntyre 2005-02-22, 8:55 pm |
| On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:36:24 +0100, in comp.lang.c , "frank van nuffel"
<clipper5-y2d@versateladsl.be> wrote:
>Martin,
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>Just add comp.lang.c to the list of nominees
Seems your point is, you posted some platform-specific code in CLC, asked
for a review, and got answers you didn't like. Amongst these, people noted
that you'd failed to read the FAQ or Welcome messages, failed to lurk,
posted offtopic, used gratuitous platform-specific stuff, wrote oververbose
and unnecessary code. You then evidently then got rude with the reviewers,
and even tried to get clever and philosophical in an attempt to appear
superior.
If you ask for a review, I suggest you ought to be ready to recieve one.
When we do code reviews in the office, we don't all tiptoe around being
nicey-nicey to each other, we do it properly. Maybe you were expecting
praise. Thats not the point of a review.
My own opinion, rereading the thread, is that you were trolling for adverse
comments to prop up your opinion that CLC is nasty. If so, go boil your
head. Its apparently undercooked.
(comp.lang.clipper deliberately left in, as I'm pretty sure you don't
bother reading CLC once you've fired off your troll. )
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| Dave Pearson 2005-02-23, 8:55 am |
| * frank van nuffel <clipper5-y2d@versateladsl.be>:
> "infobahn" <infobahn@btinternet.com>
> wrote in message news:421B5489.4A663697@btinternet.com...
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> .oO html news won't make it into google archive;
> just avoiding recursive links
And the reason for cross-posting to comp.lang.c when you know that what you
posted would be contentious in that group?
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Dave Pearson | OSLib - Timeslice release functions.
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| frank van nuffel 2005-02-23, 8:55 am |
| Mark,
"Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in
message news:k0fn11tajbvlnfn3gltdhi189firvqhdb6@
4ax.com...
> Seems your point is, you posted some platform-specific code in CLC, asked
> for a review, and got answers you didn't like.
As a first timer on CLC, seen the initial reply, it didn't even point out
the
portability issue, not to mention that your FAQ (at that time at least) was
no help either. There's the tone set, no matter how helpless i tried to
repair the event of having supplied something that as for me didn't even
made out the point of the question. I still wonder today if anyone even
got the question as per title, that's all.
> If you ask for a review, I suggest you ought to be ready to recieve one.
> When we do code reviews in the office, we don't all tiptoe around being
> nicey-nicey to each other, we do it properly. Maybe you were expecting
> praise. Thats not the point of a review.
I've to admit my message was formulated in a wrong manner; i wasn't
into a review of a code snippet for the standards of being portable than
i wondered how the problem formulated in the message header could
be solved. The code supplied was only an indicator of what at that
point was already workable (in non-portable, platform-specific operation,
that should be clear from now on). Hence, it was a mistake altogether
asking the question in CLC for the group understandably has its way of
suggesting portable platform-specific problems simply can't be dealt with
in portable C, albeit in a insultive way.
> My own opinion, rereading the thread, is that you were trolling for
adverse
> comments to prop up your opinion that CLC is nasty. If so, go boil your
> head. Its apparently undercooked.
What else to conclude? You're confirming what i concluded.
> (comp.lang.clipper deliberately left in, as I'm pretty sure you don't
> bother reading CLC once you've fired off your troll. )
Wrong again
frank
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| frank van nuffel 2005-02-23, 8:55 am |
| Dave,
"Dave Pearson" wrote in message
news:slrnd1ofjr.q6t.davep.news@hagbard.davep.org...
> And the reason for cross-posting to comp.lang.c when you know that what
you
> posted would be contentious in that group?
I still wonder today if anyone even got the question as per title, that's
all
frank
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| Dave Pearson 2005-02-23, 8:55 am |
| * frank van nuffel <clipper5-y2d@versateladsl.be>:
> "Dave Pearson" wrote in message
> news:slrnd1ofjr.q6t.davep.news@hagbard.davep.org...
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> I still wonder today if anyone even got the question as per title, that's
> all
What "title" is this and will it tell me why you decided to start a
cross-posted argument with comp.lang.c? Do you think that cross-posting in
that way will make comp.lang.clipper any more "helpful"?
--
Dave Pearson | OSLib - Timeslice release functions.
http://www.davep.org/ | eg - Norton Guide reader for Linux.
http://www.davep.org/clipper/ | weg - Norton Guide reader for Windows.
http://www.davep.org/norton-guides/ | dgscan - DGROUP scanner for Clipper.
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| frank van nuffel 2005-02-23, 8:55 am |
| "Dave Pearson" wrote in message
news:slrnd1oqet.q6t.davep.news@hagbard.davep.org...
> What "title" is this and will it tell me why you decided to start a
> cross-posted argument with comp.lang.c? Do you think that cross-posting in
> that way will make comp.lang.clipper any more "helpful"?
Let's say it is about an issue i still didn't get a solution for, and
bringing it up again is more about coming around with things
(perhaps in this case with people, if anything) than out of
disputatious motivation. It happened that cross-posting over
a message that originally did not appear in CLC was a means
of invting replies from that side too.
frank
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| Richard Bos 2005-02-23, 3:55 pm |
| "frank van nuffel" <clipper5-y2d@versateladsl.be> wrote:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Don't do that. And don't bloody top-post.
> Just add comp.lang.c to the list of nominees=20
Pity there are some people who read both c.l.c _and_ c.l.clipper, isn't
it? I was there; I even posted to that thread. Not only did you behave
like an idiot, you even all but admitted that you are a troll. I notice
that you haven't grown up since.
> Not to mention they had no clue what the code does (compiled for =
> Borland C++ 3.0) at that point, and that it works properly for the task =
> it was to take care of, considered it to be compiled with (non-portable) =
> BC++ 3.x Just wasn't about to let me be fooled with.=20
None of this makes sense, and some of it is a blatant lie, in the light
of that thread.
Richard
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| frank van nuffel 2005-02-23, 3:55 pm |
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"Richard Bos" wrote in message news:421cb87f.1778212@news.individual.net...
> Pity there are some people who read both c.l.c _and_ c.l.clipper, isn't
> it? I was there; I even posted to that thread. Not only did you behave
> like an idiot, you even all but admitted that you are a troll. I notice
> that you haven't grown up since.
Get over it, you were more concerned about blank lines than about code,
iirc
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> None of this makes sense, and some of it is a blatant lie, in the light
> of that thread.
and now i'm a lier too; get serious
frank
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| SBC News 2005-02-27, 3:55 am |
| Hi Martin, Where are you located? I am currently available. If you are
close enough maybe I can help you out for a while?
Scott
burke_scott@sbcglobal.net
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| Martin 2005-02-28, 3:55 pm |
| Problem has been solved and we already have one contract programmer helping
us out, but he doesn't know C
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| SBC News 2005-03-03, 3:55 am |
| Hi Martin, Where are you located? I am currently available. If you are
close enough maybe I can help you out for a while?
Scott
burke_scott@sbcglobal.net
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