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Network Slowing Down
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| Hi,
At my office, we have 11 computers (including server). There is 7
computers running Windows 98 SE, 3 running on DOS only and 1 (the server)
running on NetWare 3.12. Every computers has full duplex enabled
(100mbps/sec) and they are all running a small Clipper DOS application
that use multiples DBF and NTX files on the server (except server). The
problem occurs on every Windows 98 SE stations when running the old
Clipper application at the same time than any other VGUI application like
MS Access, FileMaker and Accounting application (Any applications using
files saved on the remote server). When the Clipper application is running
all alone there is no speed problem on the station but when we are
launching an other "network" application : BOOM!, the speed decrease
dramaticaly (over 3 times slower). This problem only affects the computer
that is running both applications. The other computers on the network are
not slowing down until we perform the same operations on them. I
desactivated Norton Antivirus 2004 on every computers but the problem
still occurs.
I hope somebody will be able to help me! ;)
Your attention is realy appreciated.
Guillaume Bard
for Ross Hair Hygienist inc. &
E-Novate Solutions
www.e-novate.ca
www.ross-hair.com
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| AUGE_OHR 2004-04-09, 7:30 pm |
| hi,
what Version of Cl*pper ?
Real-Mode or Protect-Mode ?
did you use "wait.obj"
show us you LNK Script
greetings by OHR
Jimmy
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| I am not the developper that worked on this application. I don't know where
I can get the information you asked but I would be pleased to provide
these information if someone can tell me how I can find them. ;)
I think it is running in Protected Mode :
INDICATORS :
- MULTIPLEDATE
- PROTMODE
(Using Quick Preview tool in Windows 98 SE on *NEWRDV.EXE)
*NEWRDV.EXE is the Clipper application that we use. It is an appointment
manager (Rendez-vous) (sorry for the translation, i'm French Canadian). I
know that the application is creating a DBF file and a NTX file for every
months for every schedule and there is also other DBF and NTX files in
order to manage users, products etc. There is a total of 483 DBF files
used totalising 69,7MB and 733 NTX files for a total of 74,1MB. These
files are stored on a remote NetWare 3.12 Server. It can happens that more
than 10 users are using this application at the same time but there is no
problems with the network when it happens. The network speed problem only
occurs on the local machine that is running more than one "network"
application. I feel like the DOS Clipper application is using around 75%
of the computer network bandwidth.
Thank you,
Guillaume Bard
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| Here is some more information :
I have the following commands in a file called Autoexec.bat in the root
directory of the NetWare server :
set filermode2=on
set clipper = v006
prompt $p$g
ipx
netx
f:
login
Error in the last Post :
INDICATORS :
- MULTIPLEDATA (not MULTIPLEDATE)
- PROTMODE
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| Claudio Voskian 2004-04-09, 9:30 pm |
| Hi Guillaume
"gbard" <gbard@e-novate.ca> escribió en el mensaje
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| Here is some more information :
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| I have the following commands in a file called Autoexec.bat in the root
| directory of the NetWare server :
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| set filermode2=on
| set clipper = v006
| prompt $p$g
| ipx
| netx
| f:
| login
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| Error in the last Post :
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| INDICATORS :
| - MULTIPLEDATA (not MULTIPLEDATE)
| - PROTMODE
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From the below line in your autoexec:
| set clipper = v006
I suspect that your app was written in clipper S87, in which you can almost
do nothing to correct the bad performance issue.
Besides, if my assumption is correct, then your app is running in real mode,
not protected mode.
Said that, if you don't have the source programs (i.e. *.prg), then you are
on your own.
HTH
--
Saluten
Claudio
Buenos Aires - Argentina
--
"Lo importante no es saber, sino tener el telefono del que sabe"
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| gbard 2004-04-09, 11:30 pm |
| Thank you Claudio, if fact I do not have the sources. I'll try to find out
an other solution :(
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| Nick Ramsay 2004-04-10, 4:30 am |
| On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:06:12 -0400, "gbard" <gbard@e-novate.ca> wrote:
>Thank you Claudio, if fact I do not have the sources. I'll try to find out
>an other solution :(
Seems to me that what you're actually saying is that the workstations
are slowing down, not the network per se. You may want to activate
the various monitoring tools on 98 in Start / Programs / Accessories /
System Monitor
You should turn on the monitor for the network throughput & the CPU at
the very least & then run the apps that cause a slowdown & see what is
happening.
If the CPU is at 100% (as I suspect it is), you can try running Tame &
see if that helps (it should). You can download a demo version here:
http://www.tamedos.com/
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| gbard 2004-04-10, 11:30 am |
| Thank You Nick, I tried you TameDOS software and the CPU usage droped down
from 100% to 35%-45%. The other application were running better over the
network. I uninstalled TameDOS beacause I can get the same performance
improvements by modifying the properties of the link on my desktop. I am
getting a 30%-45% of CPU usage when I change the priority of the
application in the link settings "Standby sensivity set to High" as well
the "Always suspend" option in the "Background" propriety.
I am still looking for further improvements.
Thank You!
P.S.: My Windows 98SE is in French which makes that my translation might
not be exact.
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| Will Styles 2004-04-10, 7:30 pm |
| Running <aplication name> //info will also tell you what version of
Clipper you are running
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:23:24 -0400, "gbard" <gbard@e-novate.ca> wrote:
>Thank You Nick, I tried you TameDOS software and the CPU usage droped down
>from 100% to 35%-45%. The other application were running better over the
>network. I uninstalled TameDOS beacause I can get the same performance
>improvements by modifying the properties of the link on my desktop. I am
>getting a 30%-45% of CPU usage when I change the priority of the
>application in the link settings "Standby sensivity set to High" as well
>the "Always suspend" option in the "Background" propriety.
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>I am still looking for further improvements.
>
>Thank You!
>
>P.S.: My Windows 98SE is in French which makes that my translation might
>not be exact.
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| Stephen Quinn 2004-04-10, 10:30 pm |
| gbard
> the "Always suspend" option in the "Background" propriety.
Just be aware that doing that can cause problems if the app is minimised while creating an index or
with a record locked or database opened exclusively.
--
HTH
Steve Quinn
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| Norman Perelson 2004-04-11, 8:30 am |
| "gbard" <gbard@e-novate.ca> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> At my office, we have 11 computers (including server). There is 7
> computers running Windows 98 SE, 3 running on DOS only and 1 (the server)
> running on NetWare 3.12. Every computers has full duplex enabled
> (100mbps/sec) and they are all running a small Clipper DOS application
> that use multiples DBF and NTX files on the server (except server). The
> problem occurs on every Windows 98 SE stations when running the old
> Clipper application at the same time than any other VGUI application like
> MS Access, FileMaker and Accounting application (Any applications using
> files saved on the remote server). When the Clipper application is running
> all alone there is no speed problem on the station but when we are
> launching an other "network" application : BOOM!, the speed decrease
> dramaticaly (over 3 times slower). This problem only affects the computer
> that is running both applications. The other computers on the network are
> not slowing down until we perform the same operations on them.
Guillaume,
Have you tried appointing one of the Windows 98 computers to be the file
server for the Windows applications and thus dedicate the Netware server to
the Clipper Application? I ask this because it sounds to me as if the
Windows applications are slowing down the Netware server.
Norman
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| fatfat 2004-04-11, 5:30 pm |
| did you upgrade all patch for netware 3.12 and also use the lastest netware
client from windows 9x ?
I have hit many problem like yours and all gone after apply all patch to
netware 3.12 and upgrade the lastest netware client
"gbard" <gbard@e-novate.ca> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> At my office, we have 11 computers (including server). There is 7
> computers running Windows 98 SE, 3 running on DOS only and 1 (the server)
> running on NetWare 3.12. Every computers has full duplex enabled
> (100mbps/sec) and they are all running a small Clipper DOS application
> that use multiples DBF and NTX files on the server (except server). The
> problem occurs on every Windows 98 SE stations when running the old
> Clipper application at the same time than any other VGUI application like
> MS Access, FileMaker and Accounting application (Any applications using
> files saved on the remote server). When the Clipper application is running
> all alone there is no speed problem on the station but when we are
> launching an other "network" application : BOOM!, the speed decrease
> dramaticaly (over 3 times slower). This problem only affects the computer
> that is running both applications. The other computers on the network are
> not slowing down until we perform the same operations on them. I
> desactivated Norton Antivirus 2004 on every computers but the problem
> still occurs.
>
> I hope somebody will be able to help me! ;)
> Your attention is realy appreciated.
>
> Guillaume Bard
> for Ross Hair Hygienist inc. &
> E-Novate Solutions
> www.e-novate.ca
> www.ross-hair.com
>
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