Clarion - Clarion 6.1 and Windows XP Pro

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Clarion 6.1 and Windows XP Pro

asanfilippo70

2006-06-26, 6:55 pm

I have just installed Clarion on a new laptop and everytime I try to
compile a program it crashes, saying the 16 bit subsystem has become
unstable.

I have contacted Softvelocities tech support and we went the the whole
process of adding a local printer to the lpt1 port as well as a
registry change that was suggested in the FAQ's. When we were done, I
was basically told that there was nothing further they could do.
The laptop does not have a physical LPT port, I know that should not be
a factor, because the previous laptop did not have one either and I
never experienced this issue.

My question is, does anyone else have this problem and what work
arounds did you find without having to upgrade. I could really use the
help.

Thanks

Anthony

C.Joseph Drayton

2006-06-26, 9:55 pm

asanfilippo70 wrote:
> I have just installed Clarion on a new laptop and everytime I try to
> compile a program it crashes, saying the 16 bit subsystem has become
> unstable.
>
> I have contacted Softvelocities tech support and we went the the whole
> process of adding a local printer to the lpt1 port as well as a
> registry change that was suggested in the FAQ's. When we were done, I
> was basically told that there was nothing further they could do.
> The laptop does not have a physical LPT port, I know that should not be
> a factor, because the previous laptop did not have one either and I
> never experienced this issue.
>
> My question is, does anyone else have this problem and what work
> arounds did you find without having to upgrade. I could really use the
> help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Anthony
>

Hi Anthony,

I have that problem pop up once or twice a month. All I do is copy
the 'autoexec.nt' file from the '/window/repair/' sub-directory to
the '/windows/system32/' directory. I'm not sure why it works, but I
have been doing this for a couple of years successfully.

Ciao . . . C.Joseph

And on the seventh day God said,
"I will rest . . . Murphy take over."

IGM-Man

2006-06-26, 9:55 pm

I had sim. probs. and I had a phantom printer like you but I would
change the default to a network printer and when I ran the laptop sans
network -> crash starting clarion.
Make sure that the phantom printer is the default.

Good Luck!

C.Joseph Drayton wrote:
> asanfilippo70 wrote:
>
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> I have that problem pop up once or twice a month. All I do is copy
> the 'autoexec.nt' file from the '/window/repair/' sub-directory to
> the '/windows/system32/' directory. I'm not sure why it works, but I
> have been doing this for a couple of years successfully.
>
> Ciao . . . C.Joseph
>
> And on the seventh day God said,
> "I will rest . . . Murphy take over."

asanfilippo70

2006-06-27, 7:55 am

Thanks for the info guys, but I tried those suggestions and still
nothing. It is really hard to believe the Soft Velocity couldn't help
with this issue. I mean the tech support person was basically telling
me that I am SOL on this issue. I have looked all over the internet
and tried everything but still nothing.

One other thing I did forget to mention, that is also part of the
problem. When I try to adjust the fonts for the IDE the system
crashes. Now I am not sure if that has something to do with it, but I
thought it would be worth mentioning.

Anthony
asanfilippo70 wrote:
> I have just installed Clarion on a new laptop and everytime I try to
> compile a program it crashes, saying the 16 bit subsystem has become
> unstable.
>
> I have contacted Softvelocities tech support and we went the the whole
> process of adding a local printer to the lpt1 port as well as a
> registry change that was suggested in the FAQ's. When we were done, I
> was basically told that there was nothing further they could do.
> The laptop does not have a physical LPT port, I know that should not be
> a factor, because the previous laptop did not have one either and I
> never experienced this issue.
>
> My question is, does anyone else have this problem and what work
> arounds did you find without having to upgrade. I could really use the
> help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Anthony

IGM-Man

2006-06-27, 6:55 pm

Your best bet now maybe to check your supply of HOLY WATER.

Seriously-> Is there ANYTHING different about this XP load and your
last. I'm thinking service packs, extra PGMS, different Virus/Firewall
programs? I can't remeber were it is but there are registry entries
that load extra "stuff" when the 16 bit and the DOS windows open.
Something in there maybe causing your problem.

asanfilippo70 wrote:[color=darkred]
> Thanks for the info guys, but I tried those suggestions and still
> nothing. It is really hard to believe the Soft Velocity couldn't help
> with this issue. I mean the tech support person was basically telling
> me that I am SOL on this issue. I have looked all over the internet
> and tried everything but still nothing.
>
> One other thing I did forget to mention, that is also part of the
> problem. When I try to adjust the fonts for the IDE the system
> crashes. Now I am not sure if that has something to do with it, but I
> thought it would be worth mentioning.
>
> Anthony
> asanfilippo70 wrote:

nirav.gajerawala@gmail.com

2006-06-27, 6:55 pm

Hello,

You are a victim of Hyper-Threading Technology. Just Turn off
Hyper-Threading Setting from CMOS Setup and try compiling your clarion
6.1 app. It might just work out.

Thanks.
Nirav.

nirav.gajerawala@gmail.com

2006-06-27, 6:55 pm

Hello,

You are a victim of Hyper-Threading Technology. Just Turn off
Hyper-Threading Setting from CMOS Setup and try compiling your clarion
6.1 app. It might just work out. It has been proved that
Clarion(5.5/6.1)+Windows XP Service Pack2+ Processor Intel P4 (with
Hyper-Threading ON) combination results into many crashes. The most
obvious reason detected is that When clarion runs the thread, hyper
threading creates many slices of that thread pointing to same memory
location. So in the event that 2 or more thread slice when tries to
locate same memory location, Clarion feels bad. And it crashes. I don't
know how much Windows XP is contributing to this problem. But it has
been tested out practically that the same things never crashed on
Windows 2000 (service pack 4) version. Wonder!!!! isnt it..???

Thanks.
Nirav.

asanfilippo70

2006-06-28, 7:56 am

The laptop is a Centrino Duo. I did try to turn off the second
processor but there is no choice in the cmos for the hyper threading.
Even with the second processor off it still failed to compile.

Thanks

Anthony
nirav.gajerawala@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> You are a victim of Hyper-Threading Technology. Just Turn off
> Hyper-Threading Setting from CMOS Setup and try compiling your clarion
> 6.1 app. It might just work out. It has been proved that
> Clarion(5.5/6.1)+Windows XP Service Pack2+ Processor Intel P4 (with
> Hyper-Threading ON) combination results into many crashes. The most
> obvious reason detected is that When clarion runs the thread, hyper
> threading creates many slices of that thread pointing to same memory
> location. So in the event that 2 or more thread slice when tries to
> locate same memory location, Clarion feels bad. And it crashes. I don't
> know how much Windows XP is contributing to this problem. But it has
> been tested out practically that the same things never crashed on
> Windows 2000 (service pack 4) version. Wonder!!!! isnt it..???
>
> Thanks.
> Nirav.

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