Home > Archive > C > June 2006 > [OT]Re: How to connect SQL database in C programs
You are viewing an archived Text-only version of the thread.
To view this thread in it's original format and/or if you want to reply to
this thread please [click here]
| Author |
[OT]Re: How to connect SQL database in C programs
|
|
| Al Balmer 2006-06-26, 6:56 pm |
| On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:59:23 +0300, Juuso Hukkanen
<juuso_12_2003@tele3d.net> wrote:
>Even Mr. Donald Trump at the Trump university's Trump blog thinks
>"Outsourcing Creates Jobs in the Long Run" - So it is kind of
>scientifically proven :)
Outsourcing may have helped to improve Mr. Trump's position in life,
but that's hardly scientific proof of anything.
BTW, I wasn't aware that Europe had outsourced vast quantities of work
to Russia at cut-rate prices.
Anyway, you miss the point. The point is that for the sake of saving a
few dollars this quarter, some company has sent software work to a
supplier who is obviously incompetent to do the job. They will pay for
this mistake in the long run, of course, but surely you can't blame
folks here for not wanting to do their work for them, at no cost.
In any case, the question is off-topic here.
--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
| |
| Juuso Hukkanen 2006-06-26, 6:56 pm |
| On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:25:09 GMT, Al Balmer <albalmer@att.net> wrote:
>Outsourcing may have helped to improve Mr. Trump's position in life,
>but that's hardly scientific proof of anything.
Ok, I admit that but there are also economy studies that say
outsourcing be benefiting all parties at the macro-economic level.
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/nov/02bpo2.htm
>BTW, I wasn't aware that Europe had outsourced vast quantities of work
>to Russia at cut-rate prices.
Oh yes, think a decade ago it was a country with a size of half of
USA's and full of educated people and a still working education
systems. Of cause lots of technology jobs have been created there and
especially in many of those East European former soviet block
countries.
About practical chances to outsource programming jobs to Russia, well
there is for example a Russian Software Developers Association
(RUSSOFT) and its 80 member organizations and 7000 developers; all
very interested for outsourcing projects from Europe or elsewhere.
http://www.russoft.org/russoft/
That's just global economy, but cheer up in absolute numbers the
technology jobs in USA aren't really disappearing; even if the
outsourcing increases it just helps making the cake bigger.
>Anyway, you miss the point. The point is that for the sake of saving a
>few dollars this quarter, some company has sent software work to a
>supplier who is obviously incompetent to do the job.
Ok, Sachin's possible overseas contractor might be surprised one day
if the program would not behave as desired. But hey, Sachin may need
that SQL unit also for his university project OR to a hobby project at
a computer club OR for an urgent contract job he just received from
his local video store. C'mon should have I waited giving him and
answer until he took an oath, that his request was not related for any
off-shored job?
>They will pay for this mistake in the long run, of course, but
>surely you can't blame folks here for not wanting to do their
>work for them, at no cost.
Perhaps CLC F.A.Q should contain a list of countries, to which lesser
quality answers would be adequate? I know you are not suggesting any
such restrictions (- and in that sense this is unfair), but my point
is that mixing CLC to politics of global economy is a bad idea. You
know, next requester from India or ... Vietnam might be a 12 year old
local nerd with bad "Engrish" and a crank-powered 100$ development aid
PC; doing child labour for a LOCAL contractor.
Sorry if you now feel like after 100 Touchées
Juuso Hukkanen
http://www.tele3d.com
(to reply by e-mail set addresses month and year to correct)
| |
| Mark McIntyre 2006-06-26, 6:57 pm |
| On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:25:09 GMT, in comp.lang.c , Al Balmer
<albalmer@att.net> wrote:
>BTW, I wasn't aware that Europe had outsourced vast quantities of work
>to Russia at cut-rate prices.
It hasn't.
--
Mark McIntyre
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it."
--Brian Kernighan
| |
| Juuso Hukkanen 2006-06-26, 6:57 pm |
| On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:36:56 +0100, Mark McIntyre
<markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote:
<OT>
><albalmer@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>It hasn't.
That is mostly true. Al got the idea or Europeans being outsourcing
jobs to Russia from his own imagination - or at least not from me.
Althought many western companies have been putting all kinds of
factories factories there, I dont think it is due to outsourcing but
rather a sign of corporations expanding into new markets.
In my post to which Al replied, I mentioned the growth of Russian
economy to have made them equal trade partners; who happen to be now
bying lots of automobiles. And In my reply post to Al I did show
Russians to be organized and willing for doing outsourced programming
jobs, but not that a vast quantity of programming work would be
outsourced allredy.
Juuso
</OT>
| |
|
| Juuso Hukkanen <juuso_12_2003@tele3d.net> writes:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:36:56 +0100, Mark McIntyre
> <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> <OT>
>
> That is mostly true. Al got the idea or Europeans being outsourcing
> jobs to Russia from his own imagination - or at least not from me.
> Althought many western companies have been putting all kinds of
> factories factories there, I dont think it is due to outsourcing but
> rather a sign of corporations expanding into new markets.
>
> In my post to which Al replied, I mentioned the growth of Russian
> economy to have made them equal trade partners; who happen to be now
> bying lots of automobiles. And In my reply post to Al I did show
> Russians to be organized and willing for doing outsourced programming
> jobs, but not that a vast quantity of programming work would be
> outsourced allredy.
>
They've stopped in Romania, for now. At least Siemens and Alcatel have
hired large numbers of programmers. If wages go much higher there may
be a chance that some companies will move farther east although, given
the amount of money they put into buildings and people, I doubt that.
--
Ioan - Ciprian Tandau
tandau _at_ freeshell _dot_ org (hope it's not too late)
(... and that it still works...)
| |
| Al Balmer 2006-06-26, 6:57 pm |
| On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:36:56 +0100, Mark McIntyre
<markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:25:09 GMT, in comp.lang.c , Al Balmer
><albalmer@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>It hasn't.
I know. Tell Jusso - it's his theory that requires it.
--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
| |
| Al Balmer 2006-06-26, 6:57 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:42:25 +0300, Juuso Hukkanen
<juuso_12_2003@tele3d.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:36:56 +0100, Mark McIntyre
><markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
><OT>
>
>That is mostly true. Al got the idea or Europeans being outsourcing
>jobs to Russia from his own imagination - or at least not from me.
>Althought many western companies have been putting all kinds of
>factories factories there, I dont think it is due to outsourcing but
>rather a sign of corporations expanding into new markets.
That was exactly my point. Your command of English seemed to be good
enough to support a bit of sarcasm. My apologies if I was wrong.
You were using the economic progress of Russia, somehow, to augment
your pro-outsourcing argument. I was pointing out (in an indirect way)
that it had little or nothing to do with outsourcing. Now, apparently,
you are agreeing with me.
>
>In my post to which Al replied, I mentioned the growth of Russian
>economy to have made them equal trade partners; who happen to be now
>bying lots of automobiles. And In my reply post to Al I did show
>Russians to be organized and willing for doing outsourced programming
>jobs, but not that a vast quantity of programming work would be
>outsourced allredy.
>
>Juuso
></OT>
--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
| |
| Juuso Hukkanen 2006-06-26, 6:57 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:03:15 GMT, Al Balmer <albalmer@att.net> wrote:
<OT>
>
>That was exactly my point.
Now I see you are about 50% right :) I uncarefully said "To prove that
point" ... think Russia in a chapter following a chapter that listed
two agendas:
1) Outsourcing boost economies in developing countries, allowing those
2) fresh economies to start buing western Hi-Tech As customers
Ok, Russian economy is booming , which allows them to obtain lots of
western technology - like automobiles. Obviously the reason for why
it is booming is related to oil,gas and other natural resource prices
and very little to incomes obtained from off-shored technology
projects. My point was to show the developed economies as future
customers.
Sorry for confusion
Juuso
</OT>
|
|
|
|
|