APL - aplplus2 + DOS

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aplplus2 + DOS

LMR27

2004-04-14, 6:30 am

I have been working for more than 15 years with apl + 2 STSTC,
MANUGISTIC, etc. In all documentations of every version, we are told
that it is possible to edit any character of quad AV by typing
maj-esc, the reference in quad AV and letter A not only for
initializing a key, what perfectly walks, but even to obtain the
character on the screen! That is false, it has never walked on any
version. Has anybody experimented that?

phil chastney

2004-04-14, 7:30 am

"LMR27" <lmoreau2@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> I have been working for more than 15 years with apl + 2 STSTC,
> MANUGISTIC, etc. In all documentations of every version, we are told
> that it is possible to edit any character of quad AV by typing
> maj-esc, the reference in quad AV and letter A not only for
> initializing a key, what perfectly walks, but even to obtain the
> character on the screen! That is false, it has never walked on any
> version. Has anybody experimented that?

it has been a long time since I used STSC's wonderful APL*Plus,
but my recollection is that holding down the Alt key, while typing
the AV code >on the numeric keypad< would display the desired
character

or maybe that should be the Alt-GR key? try them both, I guess

regards . . . /phil

P.S: "ça marche" is better translated as "it works" -- translate it
as "it walks", you will confuse the average anglophone

LMR27

2004-04-15, 3:31 am

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:30:49 -0000, "phil chastney"
<phil@amadeus-info.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>"LMR27" <lmoreau2@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
>news:407cff3b.518020510@news.free.fr...
>
>it has been a long time since I used STSC's wonderful APL*Plus,
>but my recollection is that holding down the Alt key, while typing
>the AV code >on the numeric keypad< would display the desired
>character
>
>or maybe that should be the Alt-GR key? try them both, I guess
>
>regards . . . /phil
>
>P.S: "ça marche" is better translated as "it works" -- translate it
> as "it walks", you will confuse the average anglophone
>
>
What you say must be true on APLPLUS, but not in APLPLUS*2; the only
correct method is this one such described in my precedent text.
Unhappily, it does not work,"ça ne marche pas"; nothing is more
difficult than to translate the gallicisms into anglicisms!!!

phil chastney

2004-04-15, 8:30 am

"LMR27" <lmoreau2@free.fr> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:30:49 -0000, "phil chastney"
> <phil@amadeus-info.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> What you say must be true on APLPLUS, but not in APLPLUS*2; the only
> correct method is this one such described in my precedent text.

the method I described is part of the Windows operating system --
you need to have NumLock ON, and hold the Alt key down while typing
-all- the digits, and the character should appear on the screen when you
lift your finger from the Alt-key

if that doesn't work, I shall have to dig my manuals out of the attic
(that may take some time)

> nothing is more
> difficult than to translate the gallicisms into anglicisms!!!

very true, and vice versa

all the best . . . /phil

LMR27

2004-04-16, 8:33 am

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:43:32 -0000, "phil chastney"
<phil@amadeus-info.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>"LMR27" <lmoreau2@free.fr> wrote in message
>news:407e2b60.59938202@news.free.fr...
>
>the method I described is part of the Windows operating system --
>you need to have NumLock ON, and hold the Alt key down while typing
>-all- the digits, and the character should appear on the screen when you
>lift your finger from the Alt-key
>
>if that doesn't work, I shall have to dig my manuals out of the attic
>(that may take some time)
>
I think your manuals are not useful in this case. APLPLUS*2 is not a
windows product but a DOS product working with Pharlap dos-extender.
All the keys are modified by the program and consequently the rules of
windows are unknown. I think you know APLPLUS*3 which is a pure
windows product and perhaps it is possible to do so.
Friendly yours
Lionel

phil chastney

2004-04-16, 8:33 am

"LMR27" <lmoreau2@free.fr> wrote in message
news:407f7c49.146200232@news.free.fr...
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:43:32 -0000, "phil chastney"
> <phil@amadeus-info.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I think your manuals are not useful in this case. APLPLUS*2 is not a
> windows product but a DOS product working with Pharlap dos-extender.
> All the keys are modified by the program and consequently the rules of
> windows are unknown.

Yes -- I realised that after I'd posted my reply -- I have the manuals
for APL*Plus/II -- the DOS product -- we used it to address 32 Mbyte
of memory, when Windows 3.1 could only address 16 Mbyte
(that should say "I -think- I have the manuals .." )

the Alt+NumPad procedure I described is part of the DOS keyboard
driver, and (since Windows 3.1 was just another DOS application)
it works under Windows as well

> I think you know APLPLUS*3 which is a pure
> windows product and perhaps it is possible to do so.

"pure"?? can a Windows application really be "pure"?

regards . . . /phil

LMR27

2004-04-17, 9:30 am

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:06:22 -0000, "phil chastney"
<phil@amadeus-info.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>"LMR27" <lmoreau2@free.fr> wrote in message
>news:407f7c49.146200232@news.free.fr...
>
>Yes -- I realised that after I'd posted my reply -- I have the manuals
>for APL*Plus/II -- the DOS product -- we used it to address 32 Mbyte
>of memory, when Windows 3.1 could only address 16 Mbyte
>(that should say "I -think- I have the manuals .." )
>
>the Alt+NumPad procedure I described is part of the DOS keyboard
>driver, and (since Windows 3.1 was just another DOS application)
>it works under Windows as well
>
>
>"pure"?? can a Windows application really be "pure"?
>
>regards . . . /phil
>
>
Probably an acception different between our languages.
Pure windows means for me: an application conceived for working under
control of windows as operating system, whereas APL2 was conceived for
working under DOS

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