Java Help - If you could start over again, what would you use to develope and host web applicatio

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If you could start over again, what would you use to develope and host web applicatio

Keith

2004-07-12, 4:05 pm

I'd like to build a web-based application for inventory control (with
imaging, forms, workflow and reporting capabilities) and need to expand my
knowledge / skills by quite a bit.

To be sure that I'm learning the right stuff, I'd appreciate the groups
opinion of what the latest and greatest is when it comes to web application
development.

If you could start building applications with a "clean slate" and could use
any product that you wanted to, what would you use?

1) To develop the GUI
2) For the backend database
3) Writing Java code?

PS I'm new to the web development world and would welcome any / all
suggestions.

kaeli

2004-07-13, 4:01 pm

In article <QfxIc.28506$SO5.23800@twister.socal.rr.com>, km7648@yahoo-
oo.com enlightened us with...
> I'd like to build a web-based application for inventory control (with
> imaging, forms, workflow and reporting capabilities) and need to expand my
> knowledge / skills by quite a bit.
>
> To be sure that I'm learning the right stuff, I'd appreciate the groups
> opinion of what the latest and greatest is when it comes to web application
> development.
>
> If you could start building applications with a "clean slate" and could use
> any product that you wanted to, what would you use?

Struts.
Boy I wish I'd known about that when I started.

>
> 1) To develop the GUI

Dreamweaver MX is a fav of mine for web pages.

> 2) For the backend database

Oracle.

> 3) Writing Java code?

I'm not overly familiar with most of the IDEs, as they cost money and
I'm cheap. ;)
Dreamweaver MX has JSP integration, but I have to make the classes in a
free editor. I chose JCreator, but if you are used to Unix apps, you may
like/prefer Eclipse. It's popular and free.
I do wish I'd known more about beans and taglibs before I started using
JSP for web applications.

I'm still pretty new to the JSP way of web apps. I used to use ASP and
Cold Fusion. My advice to you: don't code in JSP the way you'd code in
ASP. :)
JSP should have almost NO java code in the pages. It should all be beans
and taglibs. I didn't know that when I started and I put all the code in
the pages like I would with Cold Fusion or ASP (classic). I am slowly
but surely getting rid of all that and making beans and taglibs for
things. Had I known when I started, I'd have saved myself quite a bit of
headache.
Did I mention I wish I'd used struts? :)

Good luck.

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MR_E

2004-07-17, 3:58 pm

Kaeli, you are living in the past….. Struts is news from Yesterday!
Have a look at revologic, this is Struts on STEROIDS. In addition it
posses the ability for asynchronous process execution, which gives it
Workflow abilities, with the addition of a User-Role management
system, that can control the access right down to the visual
components such as buttons. The revologic Cockpit, the IDE is
pragmatic and intuitive, basically allows for J2EE Drag&Drop
development. All I can say, have a look at www.revologic.com . There
are also some good online demos that will give a good introduction to
the product, take the time to look at them!

Greetings
The_Real_Mr_E

kaeli <tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b5d9b4af53f5f52989f7c@nntp.lucent.com>...
> In article <QfxIc.28506$SO5.23800@twister.socal.rr.com>, km7648@yahoo-
> oo.com enlightened us with...
>
> Struts.
> Boy I wish I'd known about that when I started.
>
>
> Dreamweaver MX is a fav of mine for web pages.
>
>
> Oracle.
>
>
> I'm not overly familiar with most of the IDEs, as they cost money and
> I'm cheap. ;)
> Dreamweaver MX has JSP integration, but I have to make the classes in a
> free editor. I chose JCreator, but if you are used to Unix apps, you may
> like/prefer Eclipse. It's popular and free.
> I do wish I'd known more about beans and taglibs before I started using
> JSP for web applications.
>
> I'm still pretty new to the JSP way of web apps. I used to use ASP and
> Cold Fusion. My advice to you: don't code in JSP the way you'd code in
> ASP. :)
> JSP should have almost NO java code in the pages. It should all be beans
> and taglibs. I didn't know that when I started and I put all the code in
> the pages like I would with Cold Fusion or ASP (classic). I am slowly
> but surely getting rid of all that and making beans and taglibs for
> things. Had I known when I started, I'd have saved myself quite a bit of
> headache.
> Did I mention I wish I'd used struts? :)
>
> Good luck.
>
> --

kaeli

2004-07-19, 4:01 pm

In article <1638b5f6.0407170936.bdce14c@posting.google.com>,
erich_lauterbach@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
> development. All I can say, have a look at www.revologic.com .

Um...

------------------------------
An error has occurred

<no error message> (DatabaseException)
General error, message from server: "Table
'skynamics.news_categories' doesn't exist" (SQLException)

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Doesn't make me overly confident of the product.

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MR_E

2004-07-23, 8:57 am

kaeli <tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.1b658608d99a21e3989fa9@nntp.lucent.com>...
> In article <1638b5f6.0407170936.bdce14c@posting.google.com>,
> erich_lauterbach@yahoo.com enlightened us with...
>
> Um...
>
> ------------------------------
> An error has occurred
>
>
> <no error message> (DatabaseException)
> General error, message from server: "Table
> 'skynamics.news_categories' doesn't exist" (SQLException)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Doesn't make me overly confident of the product.
>
> --

I just had a look at the site, and all seems fine except for the partner page.
I wrote an mail to them, making them aware of this problem.

Greeting

The_Real_Mr_E

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