Home > Archive > Java Help > May 2004 > comp.lang.java.{help,programmer} - what they're for (mini-FAQ 2002-12-28)
You are viewing an archived Text-only version of the thread.
To view this thread in it's original format and/or if you want to reply to
this thread please [click here]
| Author |
comp.lang.java.{help,programmer} - what they're for (mini-FAQ 2002-12-28)
|
|
| David Alex Lamb 2004-04-24, 6:40 am |
| Last-Modified: Sat Dec 28 12:08:40 2002 by David Alex Lamb
Archive-name: computer-lang/java/help/minifaq
Posting-Frequency: every 4 days
Before posting read Jon Skeet's "How to get answers on the comp.lang.java.*
newsgroups" at http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/java/newsgroups.html
Java FAQs and advice:
- Java/Javascript/Powerbuilder HOWTO (Real Gagnon)
http://www.rgagnon.com/howto.html
- Java Glossary (Roedy Green) http://www.mindprod.com/jgloss.html
- Java Programmers' FAQ (Peter van der Linden) http://www.afu.com/javafaq.html
- jGuru jFAQs (John Zukowski) http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/
- Focus on Java (John Zukowski) http://java.about.com/
- Java Q&A (David Reilly) http://www.davidreilly.com/jcb/faq/
comp.lang.java.help Set-up problems, catch-all first aid.
According to its charter, this unmoderated group is for immediate help
on any Java problem, especially when the source of the difficulty is
hard to pin down in terms of topics treated on other groups.
This is the appropriate group for end-users, programmers and
administrators who are having difficulty installing a system capable of
running Java applets or programs. It is also the right group for
people trying to check their understanding of something in the
language, or to troubleshoot something simple.
comp.lang.java.programmer Programming in the Java language.
An unmoderated group for discussion of Java as a programming language.
Specific example topics may include:
o types, classes, interfaces, and other language concepts
o the syntax and grammar of Java
o threaded programming in Java - sychronisation, monitors, etc.
o possible language extensions (as opposed to API extensions).
The original charter said that discussion explicitly should not include
API features that are not built into the Java language and gave examples
like networking and the AWT. These days AWT belongs in clj.gui, and
networking is often discussed in clj.programmer.
Do not post binary classfiles or long source listings on any of these
groups. Instead, the post should reference a WWW or FTP site (short source
snippets to demonstrate a particular point or problem are fine).
Don't post on topics that have their own groups, such as:
comp.lang.java.3d The Java 3D API
comp.lang.java.advocacy Arguments about X versus Y, for various Java X and Y
comp.lang.java.beans JavaBeans and similar component frameworks
comp.lang.java.corba Common Object Request Broker Architecture and Java
comp.lang.java.databases Using databases from Java
comp.lang.java.gui Java graphical user interface design and construction
comp.lang.java.machine Java virtual machines, like JVM and KVM
comp.lang.java.security Using Java securely
comp.lang.java.softwaretools Tools for developing/maintaining Java programs
Don't cross-post between these groups and c.l.j.programmer or .help -- it just
wastes the time of people reading the general groups.
Don't post about JavaScript; it's a different language. See
comp.lang.javascript instead.
--
"Yo' ideas need to be thinked befo' they are say'd" - Ian Lamb, age 3.5
http://www.cs.queensu.ca/~dalamb/ qucis->cs to reply (it's a long story...)
| |
| David Alex Lamb 2004-04-30, 1:22 pm |
| In article <cljhmini_1083230701@qucis.QueensU.CA>,
David Alex Lamb <dalamb@spamcop.net> wrote:
>Last-Modified: Sat Dec 28 12:08:40 2002 by David Alex Lamb
>Archive-name: computer-lang/java/help/minifaq
>Posting-Frequency: every 4 days
The miniFAQ is unchanged for over a year. Is there anything new that should
be mentioned, or old that should be removed?
--
"Yo' ideas need to be thinked befo' they are say'd" - Ian Lamb, age 3.5
http://www.cs.queensu.ca/~dalamb/ qucis->cs to reply (it's a long story...)
| |
| Andrew Thompson 2004-04-30, 1:25 pm |
| On 30 Apr 2004 13:46:48 GMT, David Alex Lamb wrote:
> In article <cljhmini_1083230701@qucis.QueensU.CA>,
> David Alex Lamb <dalamb@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> The miniFAQ is unchanged for over a year. Is there anything new that should
> be mentioned, or old that should be removed?
The link to PVDL's FAQ reaches a page that
has links on it, but each points to a non-existent
document and the user simply gets dumped to a
forum. (I tried to track down PVDL without luck,
I would be happy to haul it out of the way-back
machine to host it myself..)
Another FAQ has been launched (my very own),
at <http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp>.
There is also Thomas Weidenfeller's rather fine
GUI FAQ, considered so highly it is mirrored at
my site <http://www.physci.org/guifaq.jsp>
and the Java Glossary, as well as a translation
in Japanese. Just follow the links from my mirror
back to the usenet thread for the links to Roedy's
mirror (which is more of a 'mirror' than my own,
since I inserted internal links) and the
translation by hiwa..
--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology
| |
| Chris Smith 2004-04-30, 1:25 pm |
| David Alex Lamb wrote:
> The miniFAQ is unchanged for over a year. Is there anything new that should
> be mentioned, or old that should be removed?
Looks fine to me.
If you were to force me to make a suggestion, it would be to be clearer
about how impractical the charter for clj.programmer really is (that is,
excluding API elements from discussion), and that we all just ignore it.
But that's not such a big deal, since anybody can figure that out on
their own.
--
www.designacourse.com
The Easiest Way to Train Anyone... Anywhere.
Chris Smith - Lead Software Developer/Technical Trainer
MindIQ Corporation
| |
| Andrew Thompson 2004-04-30, 1:25 pm |
| On 30 Apr 2004 13:46:48 GMT, David Alex Lamb wrote:
> In article <cljhmini_1083230701@qucis.QueensU.CA>,
> David Alex Lamb <dalamb@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> The miniFAQ is unchanged for over a year. Is there anything new that should
> be mentioned, or old that should be removed?
Oh.. While we are on the subject..
"Do not post binary classfiles or long source listings on any of these
groups. Instead, the post should reference a WWW or FTP site (short source
snippets to demonstrate a particular point or problem are fine)."
I have been promoting the concept of the SSCCE
(with the emphasis on the first S) in this..
<http://www.physci.org/codes/sscce.jsp>
It gives tips on preparing an example
for others to see.
--
Andrew Thompson
http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite
http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology
| |
|
|
|
|
| Roedy Green 2004-05-04, 4:01 pm |
| On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:06:00 GMT, Andrew Thompson
<SeeMySites@www.invalid> wrote or quoted :
>The link to PVDL's FAQ reaches a page that
>has links on it, but each points to a non-existent
>document and the user simply gets dumped to a
>forum. (I tried to track down PVDL without luck,
>I would be happy to haul it out of the way-back
>machine to host it myself..)
I have not heard a word from Peter van der Linden ever since he left
Sun.
I trust that means he is up to his ears in interesting projects.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
| |
| Roedy Green 2004-05-04, 4:01 pm |
| On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:15:27 GMT, Andrew Thompson
<SeeMySites@www.invalid> wrote or quoted :
>
>"Do not post binary classfiles or long source listings on any of these
>groups. Instead, the post should reference a WWW or FTP site (short source
>snippets to demonstrate a particular point or problem are fine)."
I presume the reason some people do it is because they don't have
their own websites. Is there some service that posts such things?
sort of like a tinyurl with website too?
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
| |
| David Alex Lamb 2004-05-04, 4:01 pm |
| In article <4svxxgkdpuz2.puexle31s8xp$.dlg@40tude.net>,
Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites@www.invalid> wrote:
>The link to PVDL's FAQ reaches a page that
>has links on it, but each points to a non-existent
>document and the user simply gets dumped to a
>forum.
Eek. I only looked at the front page myself, and never noticed the links were
out of date.
> (I tried to track down PVDL without luck,
>I would be happy to haul it out of the way-back
>machine to host it myself..)
For what it's worth, the Internet FAQs consortium has a text version from 1999
at http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-l...rogrammers/faq/ (the page I
link to now claims to be from 2001, so this text version is significantly
outdate).
I guess I'll have to remove the PVDL FAQ. I'm happy to add yours (and make
the other changes people have suggested). I'm rather slow these days; it may
take a w or so before I get around to it.
--
"Yo' ideas need to be thinked befo' they are say'd" - Ian Lamb, age 3.5
http://www.cs.queensu.ca/~dalamb/ qucis->cs to reply (it's a long story...)
|
|
|
|
|