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| shruti.at.penn@gmail.com 2006-09-23, 6:58 pm |
| I'm on Mac OS X (Intel) and whenever I click "open" for a pdf, it opens
in in
preview and saves a copy to my desktop. The reason I click open is so I
can just take a quick glance at it, and not have to save a copy! How
can I prevent Firefox from doing this? I'm not sure if this is a
Firefox issue or Mac issue
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| Malcolm 2006-09-23, 6:58 pm |
| On 2006-09-23 17:17:04 -0400, shruti.at.penn@gmail.com said:
> I'm on Mac OS X (Intel) and whenever I click "open" for a pdf, it opens
> in in
> preview and saves a copy to my desktop. The reason I click open is so I
> can just take a quick glance at it, and not have to save a copy! How
> can I prevent Firefox from doing this? I'm not sure if this is a
> Firefox issue or Mac issue
It is a Firefox issue. OSX has PDF handling built into the operating
system, so Safari, which was written just for OSX, can easily handle
PDF internally, without having to write a file on the disk. Firefox
was written for many operating systems, most of which do not handle
PDF, so it writes a file to the disk for a PDF reader (usually Preview
on a Mac, Acrobat on other systems) to handle. Firedox would have to
add special code to just the OSX version to fix this.
You could try a PDF plugin <http://www.schubert-it.com/pluginpdf/> to
handle PDF. You may have to set "Download Actions" in the "Downloads"
Preferences to use the plugin for PDF files.
You could also try setting the download folder to a folder that gets
emptied whenever you logout. I think there is already a tmp folder
that does that.
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| Malcolm <malcolm@invalid> wrote:
> You could try a PDF plugin <http://www.schubert-it.com/pluginpdf/> to
> handle PDF. You may have to set "Download Actions" in the "Downloads"
> Preferences to use the plugin for PDF files.
Nice one, thanks, it works well here.
--
^Ï^
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| shruti.at.penn@gmail.com 2006-09-23, 6:58 pm |
| That didn't seem to work for me... is it only for powerpc macs as it
says on the sidebar?
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| Garner Miller 2006-09-23, 9:58 pm |
| In article <1159057701.247510.141170@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
shruti.at.penn@gmail.com wrote:
> That didn't seem to work for me... is it only for powerpc macs as it
> says on the sidebar?
Yes. I'm hoping they'll release a version of Schubert-It for the Intel
Macs, as I really miss it on my MacBook.
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| Sander Tekelenburg 2006-09-23, 9:58 pm |
| In article <1159046224.262225.117220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
shruti.at.penn@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm on Mac OS X (Intel) and whenever I click "open" for a pdf, it opens
> in in
> preview and saves a copy to my desktop.
Nitpick: it's the other way around: it copies ('downloads') the file to
your Desktop, after which it is opened in Preview.
> The reason I click open is so I
> can just take a quick glance at it, and not have to save a copy! How
> can I prevent Firefox from doing this?
If you mean you want to see the file's contents within your browser,
you'll need to use a PDF plug-in that adds such capability to your
browser. There's a PDF plug-in available at:
<http://www.schubert-it.com/pluginpdf/>
--
Sander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/>
Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!"
PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!"
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| Dave Balderstone 2006-09-23, 9:58 pm |
| In article <1159046224.262225.117220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
<shruti.at.penn@gmail.com> wrote:
> The reason I click open is so I
> can just take a quick glance at it, and not have to save a copy!
How do you expect to view a file if the file is not downloaded to your
computer?
Magic?
Some sort of cyber-psychic process?
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| TaliesinSoft 2006-09-23, 9:58 pm |
| On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:17:04 -0500, shruti.at.penn@gmail.com wrote (in
article <1159046224.262225.117220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ):
> I'm on Mac OS X (Intel) and whenever I click "open" for a pdf, it opens in
> in preview and saves a copy to my desktop. The reason I click open is so I
> can just take a quick glance at it, and not have to save a copy! How can I
> prevent Firefox from doing this? I'm not sure if this is a Firefox issue
> or Mac issue
Interestingly, on my MacBook Pro (Intel) running OS X 10.4.7 if I select a
..pdf in Safari it opens for display directly in Safari. If I want to save a
copy I have to take an explicit action to do so.
--
James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft@mac.com
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| shruti.at.penn@gmail.com 2006-09-23, 9:58 pm |
| There really isn't a need for the sarcasm.
On Windows (I just bought a mac as a second computer) the process is
transparent because it saves in your temp directory. Since my temp
directory is emptied everyday, I never had a problem. It cuts out a
step.
If I set a temp folder for it to save to everytime it encounters a pdf
file, then I won't have the option of saving it when I want to, unless
I ctrl-click.
An easy way of doing a combination of both on the mac is what I was
looking for, which is probably what that plug in does.
However, it seems that that plug-in doesn't work for Intel macs yet.
And about Safari opening it but not saving it, I'm assuming has to do
with the fact that Safari is a native Mac application.
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| Barry Margolin 2006-09-23, 9:58 pm |
| In article <0001HW.C13B674C00073472B019F94F@news.supernews.com>,
TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@mac.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:17:04 -0500, shruti.at.penn@gmail.com wrote (in
> article <1159046224.262225.117220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ):
>
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> Interestingly, on my MacBook Pro (Intel) running OS X 10.4.7 if I select a
> .pdf in Safari it opens for display directly in Safari. If I want to save a
> copy I have to take an explicit action to do so.
That's because Safari has built-in PDF support. But the OP is using
Firefox, not Safari, so Safari's behavior is irrelevant.
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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| Barry Margolin 2006-09-23, 9:58 pm |
| In article < 230920062104136573%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbal
derstone.ca>,
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> In article <1159046224.262225.117220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> <shruti.at.penn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> How do you expect to view a file if the file is not downloaded to your
> computer?
>
> Magic?
>
> Some sort of cyber-psychic process?
It could do like Windows and put it in a temporary file, rather than a
permanent file on your desktop.
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
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| Barry Margolin 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| In article <1159069539.602472.61450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
shruti.at.penn@gmail.com wrote:
> And about Safari opening it but not saving it, I'm assuming has to do
> with the fact that Safari is a native Mac application.
No, it's about Tiger's Safari having code that knows how to display PDFs
automatically, it doesn't require a plug-in. It didn't have such
support in Panther, so you had to install PDFViewer to do this.
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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| Dave Balderstone 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| In article <1159069539.602472.61450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<shruti.at.penn@gmail.com> wrote:
> There really isn't a need for the sarcasm.
I wasn't being sarcastic.
> And about Safari opening it but not saving it, I'm assuming has to do
> with the fact that Safari is a native Mac application.
No, Safari is downloading to a temp directory. What did you think it
was doing? Magic?
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| Dave Balderstone 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| In article <barmar-81BF96.23584123092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article < 230920062104136573%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbal
derstone.ca>,
> Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>
>
> It could do like Windows and put it in a temporary file, rather than a
> permanent file on your desktop.
Which somehow avoids downloading the file?
I know that you know better, Barry.
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| shruti.at.penn@gmail.com 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| You are not being helpful. I already said I know it downloads a file.
What I want to know is if there's a plug-in for Firefox on Macs that
allows the downloading of the file to a temp folder (yes, like Safari)
when you click open, but still gives you the option to save it if you
want ot save it in another location.
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| Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <1159069539.602472.61450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> <shruti.at.penn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I wasn't being sarcastic.
>
>
>
>
> No, Safari is downloading to a temp directory.
It could just keep it in memory.
> What did you think it was doing? Magic?
We could have streaming pdfs some day with only part of the document
stored in local memory.
Greg
--
"All my time I spent in heaven
Revelries of dance and wine
Waking to the sound of laughter
Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons
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| Dave Balderstone 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| In article <12hc5ecma3394c4@corp.supernews.com>, G.T.
<getnews1@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> We could have streaming pdfs some day with only part of the document
> stored in local memory.
But the data still has to move down the pipe, din'it?
You can't view a document unless it exists.
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| Dave Balderstone 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| In article <1159075212.700439.100390@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
<shruti.at.penn@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are not being helpful.
Agreed.
> I already said I know it downloads a file.
No, you did not say that.
> What I want to know is if there's a plug-in for Firefox on Macs
Doing a search at versiontracker.com would be useful, then.
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| shruti.at.penn@gmail.com 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| I already did a search at Versiontracker, I tried the plugin that was
linked in an earlier post before coming here, and yes, I did a Google
search. I came here to ask for advice, not to be treated like an idiot.
If you don't have anything useful to say, stop.
It seems from searching other posts that other people have this same
problem, and are waiting for an Intel version of the PDF Browswer
Plugin as well. If anybody else has any other ideas or tips they are
willing to share, it would be much appreciated. If not, I'll just keep
going like I've been doing.
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| <shruti.at.penn@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems from searching other posts that other people have this same
> problem, and are waiting for an Intel version of the PDF Browswer
> Plugin as well.
At least I can confirm (as maybe the OP can, too) that the PDF plugin
_does_ work on a PPC Mac like mine, running Mac OS X 10.4.7 and Firefox
1.5.0.x. Hopefully for you Intel Inside guys, a Universal version will
arrive soon. (But OTOH; I'm jealous enough of your fancy new hw to enjoy
watching you squirming and waiting just a little bit longer! ;-)
--
/Jon
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| Malcolm 2006-09-24, 3:59 am |
| On 2006-09-23 21:31:16 -0400, Garner Miller <garner@netstreet.net> said:
> In article <1159057701.247510.141170@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> shruti.at.penn@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Yes. I'm hoping they'll release a version of Schubert-It for the Intel
> Macs, as I really miss it on my MacBook.
Until the Intel version of the plugin is available, you could use
Get-Info (Cd-I) to set Firefox to use Rosetta. It may not slow it down
too much since a lot of the speed is determined by the internet.
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| TaliesinSoft 2006-09-24, 7:58 am |
| On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:57:54 -0500, Barry Margolin wrote
(in article <barmar-BE6A92.23575423092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com> ):
[responding to my stating that Safari provides a means for direct viewing of
a .pdf file, a capability missing in Firefox]
> That's because Safari has built-in PDF support. But the OP is using
> Firefox, not Safari, so Safari's behavior is irrelevant.
i think it is totally relevant to point out that the capability the OP
desires is indeed available, albeit in a different application. Perhaps if
the feature is of sufficient value to the OP the OP might opt to change from
Firefox to Safari.
--
James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesinsoft@mac.com
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-09-24, 6:58 pm |
| TaliesinSoft wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:17:04 -0500, shruti.at.penn@gmail.com wrote (in
> article <1159046224.262225.117220@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ):
>
>
> Interestingly, on my MacBook Pro (Intel) running OS X 10.4.7 if I select a
> .pdf in Safari it opens for display directly in Safari. If I want to save a
> copy I have to take an explicit action to do so.
>
>
Sure .. but Firefox is a different program without
the same built-in pdf support.
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| Barry Margolin 2006-09-24, 6:58 pm |
| In article < 230920062243203850%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbal
derstone.ca>,
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> In article <barmar-81BF96.23584123092006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Which somehow avoids downloading the file?
>
> I know that you know better, Barry.
In this context, "downloading" refers to putting the file in a visible
place, where you have to delete it. It's obvious that we're not talking
about the ordinary transmission that occurs with ALL web pages.
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
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