| harvelini 2006-07-26, 6:59 pm |
| vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> You folks mean to tell me there's no program out there that would
> take a file of simple text and blatherise it to the level of another
> "reference" file? Or Adjust the "Fog Index" of a text file up or down
> from its input level. I'm totally serious. I'm tired of fighting.
> I just want to "get along".
>
> I have one idea: you score each verb and noun on, say, five,
> different scales, then you pile on similarly ranked adverbs and
> adjectives until you meet the volume requirement. Or you remove
> accordingly. In MS-Word type environments, you score less necessary
> modifiers, say , with orange-collored undersquiggles, the less
> necessary, the more undersquiggles.
>
> Message-ID: <dn55rq$mov$1@reader2.panix.com>
>
> I'm sure I've seen programs that generate blather but now I
> can't find one. I'm stuck in a wierd situation that comes up often
> enough: Some third-worlders insist you write pretentious casuistry
> when a few simple words are enough. It is  in these day of "Fog
> Index" that we have people who are commitedly ideological and even
> theologically dogmatic about making prose incomprehensibly obfuscated
> and complicated. I want it in perl so it can be extremely portable.
>
> However, I want something I can control. For example, when it sees
> the word "customer" or "strategy" it should randomly chose one of
> three flowing phrases. I can write a simple one-to-one in sed, but I
> really hope some ingenious soul has already compiled a blatherisation
> table that I only need to tweak. The issue is the text should require
> no more than, say, ten percent editing to make it seem like it came
> from a genuinely glib casuistrous bullshit artist.
>
> I wouldn't mind if the program is ingenious enough to go both ways,
> or even to be adjustable (ie, "please set the fog index"). I am
> confronted with enough blathermaniacs and antiblathermaniacs to make
> my life way too complicated. By the time I get used to one lunatic, I
> have to instead conform to the other.
>
> Message-ID: <do5j5i$2da$3@reader1.panix.com>
>
> I think you could broadly generalise the most common writing styles are:
>
> 1. Cryptic misappropriated connotation (demanded by "scholars")
> 2. Telegraphic commercial (Taught by "Communications" programs)
> 3. Latinate bureaucratic (demanded by 3rd world bureaucrats)
> 4. Literary Synonymania (demanded by "English" professors/teachers)
>
> And these variances seem to be used to discriminate and segregate
> dogmatically and unfairly. "Can't we just all get along?"
>
> Message-ID: <dnvsup$p3u$1@reader1.panix.com>
>
> I went hunting on google for "chatterbot perl knowledge base". I
> "knew" Hugh Kenner back on BiX ca 1988. Foggy is a riot, but not what
> I needed, though I think sometime it may prove valuable when
> frustration with fools triggers my evil streak. I need foggy with a
> twist - a knowledge base I can tweak like foggy, but it should take a
> simple paragraph and turn it into a long blatherous paper that I can
> then spend a few minutes editing and it will say pretty much the same
> thing as my simple paragraph. For example I write "The customer is a
> petunia" and it writes "Our customers are very important to us. One of
> our multifarous customers has proven to be a petunia. Wheretofore and
> heretofore, this important,vaulabel and significant datum will be
> assessed strategically and applied to our models wherefrom we shall
> therefore optimise our tactics, strategy and operations so that we
> fully capture the economic benefits derivable from this customer."
> One form would work with a knowledge base where it is triggered by
> words like customer and petunia into random but reasonably meaningful
> ramblings. The other would be even better if it took a file with
> writing similar to the target and transformed the source using the
> target as a model (for style and size). I would really wish this was
> in perl so I could use it on the fly anywhere!
>
>
> nyc.transit Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:19:28 +0000 (UTC)
>
> You remind me of how my folks got mistreated. They spoke with a
> heavy accent but at the university level. A lot of academics would
> love to converse endlessly with their precise and inquiring minds.
> Some "customer service" types would just hang up the phone when they
> heard the accent. One of my English teachers couldn't get over it how
> my folks had the nerve to correct her spelling.
>
> I was born here and once I had a boss say that the reason I
> disgreed on policy issues was I needed to improve my writing since I
> was Gr s and sent me to a writing class (she was Cuban and spoke
> with an accent, but I don't have an accent). Once someone asked me
> "You speak English so well, when did you come here" I looked at my
> watch and said "Oh, about 120 yrs ago." (Technically true, though my
> stowaway ancestors got sent back a month later) I once went to speak
> to a dean about something and he mentioned the essence of the
> conversation to a reporter and I saw in print that he described me as
> a foreign student (he, too, had an accent and was foreign born). When
> a previous president of my alma mater was introduced to alums, he saw
> my name badge and said "Ohhhh, Gr" shaking his head knowingly as I
> was seriously thinking of swatting him on the head like a fly.
>
>
>
>
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