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Hidasi Zsolt

2005-03-22, 8:57 am

Dear Gerardo,

Of course I have tried to get solution by searching the NET on hebrew and arabic typing but I found nothing in PTK release.
After a lot of experiments I understood that I'm not enough skilled to make it with scrollbars (except by using text on canvas which has - unfortunately - much fewer possibilities than the pure text widget), so I gave it up. Now I'm trying to solve the ri
ght to left writing by dynamic text breaking (word wrapping), which isn't easy too, because of window resizing problems, but it seems more realizable, not like the scrollbar. The main problem is - as always - the lack of the time...

My real aim is to make an archaic Hungarian runic writing program. I understand that excepting one program (which is not the best) there isn't any Hungarian runes writer program. This is just my hobby, I have no commission or request, simple I'd like to m
ake a good and - at least in its theme - an useful program.

If you don't mind I publish this e-mail on PTK list, supposing that somebody take interest in this subject and join me to find out something.

Here is a reference, where hopefully you can find some valuable information about the Hungarian runic writing.

http://fang.fa.gau.hu/~heves/runic.html

Best Wishes

Zsolt

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Rob Seegel

2005-03-23, 3:58 am

Hidasi Zsolt wrote:

>Of course I have tried to get solution by searching the NET on hebrew and arabic typing but I found nothing in PTK release.
>
>
My opinion is that currently the Text Widget as implemented at the
C-level isn't really designed to support some of the tricky presentation
requirements needed for several languages. I was playing around with it
for a while, but didn't have much time to work on it. Along the way, I
played with fribidi - http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/freesw/FriBidi/
which has a perl module, though I'm not sure how currrent it is, now. I
was interested in implementing Text input methods for Arabic/Hebrew
(Languages are one of my hobbies).

>After a lot of experiments I understood that I'm not enough skilled to make it with scrollbars (except by using text on canvas which has - unfortunately - much fewer possibilities than the pure text widget),
>
Agreed, the most success I had was also with Canvas, but like you say -
it lacked a lot of what Text provided, and wasn't very efficient when
there was a lot of text.

>so I gave it up. Now I'm trying to solve the right to left wriing by dynamic text breaking (word wrapping), which isn't easy too, because of window resizing problems, but it seems more realizable, not like the scrollbar. The main problem is - as always -
the lack of the time...
>
>
Same here. Unfortunately, I think there needs to be more work at the c
level, It might even be worth looking around for other Text
implementations, and then looking into porting it to Perl/Tk. This is
something that I've seen done fairly well in Java.

>My real aim is to make an archaic Hungarian runic writing program. I understand that excepting one program (which is not the best) there isn't any Hungarian runes writer program. This is just my hobby, I have no commission or request, simple I'd like to
make a good and - at least in its theme - an useful program.
>
>Here is a reference, where hopefully you can find some valuable information about the Hungarian runic writing.
>
>http://fang.fa.gau.hu/~heves/runic.html
>
>
>
Thanks, I thought it was really interesting. Has Hungarian Runic been
approved for adoption into Unicode, yet? I haven't been following
unicode as closely as I used to. Have you read this document:
http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n1758.pdf

One thing I found interesting in the document was that there seem to be
a split in whether or not it should be implemented LTR or RTL.
Anyway... this is wandering a bit off topic, but I'll be interested in
what you come up with.

Rob

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