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Joe Gazda

2005-03-02, 3:57 am

I've been working on computers for over 30 years, and now I would like to
learn how to program using PHP scripting. Can anyone recommend some
tutorials?

Joe G.
Dearborn, MI


NSpam

2005-03-02, 4:00 pm

Joe Gazda wrote:
> I've been working on computers for over 30 years, and now I would like to
> learn how to program using PHP scripting. Can anyone recommend some
> tutorials?
>
> Joe G.
> Dearborn, MI
>
>

Hi Joe,

Sounds like you've been around slightly longer than me - I'll settle for
25 years <g>

I won't insult you by saying RTFM, if you are anything like me you want
to see how other people in the PHP community approach things.

This is a pretty good starting point

http://www.php.net/sites.php


I must admit, coming from a strictly typed programming language
background I have problems with PHP, and Perl come to that. I can almost
feel the heat from the flames arriving as I type.

However, horse for courses, I wouldn't write a driver in PHP, neither
would I write a Stock control system in assembler - I guess you picks
the appropriate level of abstraction for the task in hand.

Anyway, enjoy PHP, its good fun.

Chris
Tony23

2005-03-02, 4:00 pm

"Joe Gazda" <email@1on1cc.com> wrote in message
news:w_-dnR6ZEP5EkLjfRVn-hw@wideopenwest.com...
> I've been working on computers for over 30 years, and now I would like to
> learn how to program using PHP scripting. Can anyone recommend some
> tutorials?
>
> Joe G.
> Dearborn, MI


You say "working with computers" - Can I assume that includes programming?

The site Chris recommended is particularly good (as it should be, being the
official PHP site). If you know PERL, you're off to a good start - I see a
lot of similarities.

After looking through all the PHP books at my local B&N, I found "PHP5/MySQL
Programming for the Absolute Beginner" to be a decent tutorial. It starts
out really basic, but touches on some more advanced topics at the end. You
can probably just skim through the first bunch of chapters to get the
basics - I know I didn't bother to do much more than that.

For comparison, I've been programming for 22 years myself. With a decent
background like that, you should be up and running with PHP in a w or
two.

Another thought (and this is what I did to really get into the coding): Get
a site that you've built using PERL (assuming you have one) and try
rebuilding it with PHP. I've done this with both PHP and ColdFusion - I fnd
it's a great way to really get into the functioning of the language.


NSpam

2005-03-02, 4:00 pm

Tony23 wrote:
> "Joe Gazda" <email@1on1cc.com> wrote in message
> news:w_-dnR6ZEP5EkLjfRVn-hw@wideopenwest.com...
>
>
>
> You say "working with computers" - Can I assume that includes programming?
>
> The site Chris recommended is particularly good (as it should be, being the
> official PHP site). If you know PERL, you're off to a good start - I see a
> lot of similarities.
>
> After looking through all the PHP books at my local B&N, I found "PHP5/MySQL
> Programming for the Absolute Beginner" to be a decent tutorial. It starts
> out really basic, but touches on some more advanced topics at the end. You
> can probably just skim through the first bunch of chapters to get the
> basics - I know I didn't bother to do much more than that.
>
> For comparison, I've been programming for 22 years myself. With a decent
> background like that, you should be up and running with PHP in a w or
> two.
>
> Another thought (and this is what I did to really get into the coding): Get
> a site that you've built using PERL (assuming you have one) and try
> rebuilding it with PHP. I've done this with both PHP and ColdFusion - I fnd
> it's a great way to really get into the functioning of the language.
>
>

Sounds like we should instigate a geryiatric coders club to prove that
experience doesn't imply inflexible or hidebound <g>
Joe Gazda

2005-03-02, 8:56 pm

Thanks for your inputs. My programming experience dates back to hexidecimal
coding for the automotive industry. I'd like to setup some web-based
database interaction. From what I've read, using session variables might be
the way to go. I'm just one of those gs that enjoys the challenge of
programming.

"Joe Gazda" <email@1on1cc.com> wrote in message
news:w_-dnR6ZEP5EkLjfRVn-hw@wideopenwest.com...
> I've been working on computers for over 30 years, and now I would like to
> learn how to program using PHP scripting. Can anyone recommend some
> tutorials?
>
> Joe G.
> Dearborn, MI
>



NSpam

2005-03-02, 8:56 pm

Joe Gazda wrote:
> Thanks for your inputs. My programming experience dates back to hexidecimal
> coding for the automotive industry. I'd like to setup some web-based
> database interaction. From what I've read, using session variables might be
> the way to go. I'm just one of those gs that enjoys the challenge of
> programming.
>
> "Joe Gazda" <email@1on1cc.com> wrote in message
> news:w_-dnR6ZEP5EkLjfRVn-hw@wideopenwest.com...
>
>
>
>

OMG that makes at least two old donkeys with a brain cell apiece. Try to
explain Hex and number sytems to those who haven't had to talk to
hardware <g>
NSpam

2005-03-02, 8:56 pm

Joe Gazda wrote:
> I've been working on computers for over 30 years, and now I would like to
> learn how to program using PHP scripting. Can anyone recommend some
> tutorials?
>
> Joe G.
> Dearborn, MI
>
>

Coming from procedural languages to objects is fun - moving onto
stateless protocols via asynchronous is even more a mind shift.

Sessions help to restore sanity for boring old farts such as myself.

Ah well, the industry assumes that if you are over 45 then the brain
atrophies and is incapable of understanding anything other than Cobol
and CICS <g>

Joe Gazda

2005-03-03, 3:57 pm

Well,

I guess the saying, "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" doesn't apply to
some of us. I found some good articles on www.devshed.com regarding PHP and
MyPHPAdmin. This old guy still uses his library card and picked up a couple
of good reference books, "Web Server Programming, by Neil Gray" and
"WebMaster in a Nutshell, by Stephen Spainhour and Robert Eckstein". Both
have a nice section on PHP and MySQL.

Thanks, again, for the inputs.

Joe G.

"Joe Gazda" <email@1on1cc.com> wrote in message
news:w_-dnR6ZEP5EkLjfRVn-hw@wideopenwest.com...
> I've been working on computers for over 30 years, and now I would like to
> learn how to program using PHP scripting. Can anyone recommend some
> tutorials?
>
> Joe G.
> Dearborn, MI
>



Tony23

2005-03-04, 3:58 pm

"NSpam" <NoSpam@NoSpam.garbage.rubbish> wrote in message
news:wqmVd.211334$B8.136657@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Tony23 wrote:

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> Sounds like we should instigate a geryiatric coders club to prove that
> experience doesn't imply inflexible or hidebound <g>


LOL

I think it's a matter of how you get started. If you spend many years
working with only one language, you end up being rather attached to it. If
your early programming years are spent learning a variety of languages, you
find it easier to learn a new one every time you're faced with that
necessity.

There IS something to be said for specialization, though. I can write C++,
but if you want it highly optimized, I'm very much the wrong person. It's
sort of like doctors - I'm a GP. When it gets beyond my depth, time to call
in a specialist...

Of course, I don't think that I'm old enough to be considered "geriatric"!


Mark A. Boyd

2005-03-07, 4:00 pm

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:37:08 GMT, NSpam wrote:

> Joe Gazda wrote:
> OMG that makes at least two old donkeys with a brain cell apiece. Try to
> explain Hex and number sytems to those who haven't had to talk to
> hardware <g>


Sheesh. And all I had available was octal coded binary. Blinkin' lights, in
fact. Anybody seen my Geritol?


--
Mark A. Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin' :)
Ken in Melbourne Australia

2005-03-08, 3:58 pm

Joe Gazda wrote:
> I've been working on computers for over 30 years, and now I would like to
> learn how to program using PHP scripting. Can anyone recommend some
> tutorials?
>
> Joe G.
> Dearborn, MI
>
>

If you want a good book on PHP that is available for free
(That is, you can read the whole book off the Internet) have
a look at:

http://www.hudzilla.org/phpbook/

Of course you can also get the full PHP Manual off the web
from php.net

Hope this helps
Ken
Melbourne Australia,


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