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Re: [PHP-DB] Auto Responses?
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> I do support you too, Jerry. People should either
> somehow exclude
> 'php-db'/other mailing lists to be auto-replied to
> or they must keep
> off their auto-replies with themselves.
Yes most mail systems allows you to exclude certain
domains from getting a auto response. Or if they own
their own server they can do the same.
Imagine half the mailing list people setting a auto
reply, our mailboxes would be out of control. If one
does it and gets away with it more will follow.
I classify ANY auto response that has no realy
meaning, eg out of office is SPAM! Different if your
signing up for a subscription a auto message sends
password and all that is a different story. But for
this mailing list setting a auto response for the
domains lists.php.net should not be allowed.
> Its quite stupid recieving emails saying "I am out
> of office" when we
> are waiting for more urgent things.
Correct, my dog barking in the back yard is more
urgent than that sort of message.
Hence I don't have a dog, I don't think!
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> Regards,
> Samar M.
J
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| Marcus Joyce 2005-01-23, 3:57 pm |
| What i love even better is when somebody on a mailing list, makes the
email hand back a receipt, how many people on this list, 10k+? Ouch
thats a lot of replies. Heh.
Marcus Joyce
JeRRy wrote:
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>Yes most mail systems allows you to exclude certain
>domains from getting a auto response. Or if they own
>their own server they can do the same.
>
>Imagine half the mailing list people setting a auto
>reply, our mailboxes would be out of control. If one
>does it and gets away with it more will follow.
>
>I classify ANY auto response that has no realy
>meaning, eg out of office is SPAM! Different if your
>signing up for a subscription a auto message sends
>password and all that is a different story. But for
>this mailing list setting a auto response for the
>domains lists.php.net should not be allowed.
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>Correct, my dog barking in the back yard is more
>urgent than that sort of message.
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>Hence I don't have a dog, I don't think!
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>J
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>Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
>http://au.movies.yahoo.com
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| Jason Wong 2005-01-23, 3:57 pm |
| On Sunday 23 January 2005 23:40, JeRRy wrote:
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> Yes most mail systems allows you to exclude certain
> domains from getting a auto response. Or if they own
> their own server they can do the same.
More specifically, smart autoresponders will not respond to mailing lists,
bounces, etc.
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| On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:56:03 +0800, Jason Wong <php-db@gremlins.biz> wrote:
> More specifically, smart autoresponders will not respond to mailing lists,
> bounces, etc.
If they are some kind of extensions or plug-ins to email clients, I
guess you could put up some more info on them to enlighten all of us
and these "out of office" and "on vacation to Hawai" people. :)
Regards,
Samar M. aka Knight Samar
= Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.
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| Jason Wong 2005-01-24, 3:56 am |
| On Monday 24 January 2005 02:13, Samar wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:56:03 +0800, Jason Wong <php-db@gremlins.biz> wrote:
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> If they are some kind of extensions or plug-ins to email clients, I
> guess you could put up some more info on them to enlighten all of us
> and these "out of office" and "on vacation to Hawai" people. :)
This is getting way off topic. I don't use any autoresponders on my mail
client so I can't give any advice there (but I'm sure google can). I only use
autoresponders on my mailserver. These look at the headers of the incoming
mail to determine whether an autoresponse is appropriate. The autoresponders
will also limit the number of autoresponses so that if eg your friend sends
you 100 mails, they will not be told 100 times that you're having a whale of
a time in Hawaii, it will only frustrate them and foment envy :).
So if your autoresponder doesn't have at least those 2 features, complain
loudly, or find a better one (or a better mail client).
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Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.biz
Open Source Software Systems Integrators
* Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development *
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| Nigel Jones 2005-01-24, 8:56 am |
| Problems guys...
Emails don't actually "come" from *@lists.php.net they are sent to
*@lists.php.net and then sent like it was an email from the sender to
x subscriber...
Really you should be suggesting that the subjects be used in the
event/filter things.
Autoresponders DO have their uses (business people, as long as they
aren't using their business account for lists) to ones that are, sign
up for a free hotmail/yahoo/gmail/* webmail account and get php list
stuff sent there instead (there are many people on this list with free
gmail invites if you still need them). That or ask your network
admin/postmaster/yourself (if your that lucky) to setup another
account for you
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:33:57 +0800, Jason Wong <php-db@gremlins.biz> wrote:
> On Monday 24 January 2005 02:13, Samar wrote:
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> This is getting way off topic. I don't use any autoresponders on my mail
> client so I can't give any advice there (but I'm sure google can). I only use
> autoresponders on my mailserver. These look at the headers of the incoming
> mail to determine whether an autoresponse is appropriate. The autoresponders
> will also limit the number of autoresponses so that if eg your friend sends
> you 100 mails, they will not be told 100 times that you're having a whale of
> a time in Hawaii, it will only frustrate them and foment envy :).
>
> So if your autoresponder doesn't have at least those 2 features, complain
> loudly, or find a better one (or a better mail client).
>
> --
> Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.biz
> Open Source Software Systems Integrators
> * Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development *
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> Search the list archives before you post
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-db
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| Jochem Maas 2005-01-24, 8:56 am |
| Nigel Jones wrote:
> Problems guys...
>
> Emails don't actually "come" from *@lists.php.net they are sent to
> *@lists.php.net and then sent like it was an email from the sender to
> x subscriber...
>
> Really you should be suggesting that the subjects be used in the
> event/filter things.
>
> Autoresponders DO have their uses (business people, as long as they
> aren't using their business account for lists) to ones that are, sign
> up for a free hotmail/yahoo/gmail/* webmail account and get php list
> stuff sent there instead (there are many people on this list with free
> gmail invites if you still need them). That or ask your network
I don't use autoresponders - If I ever go away, I either:
a, take a laptop and check for urgent stuff.
b, send important clients/colleagues an email saying when I'll be back -
which takes roughly the same time as setting up the autoresponder and has
the added bonus that you don't have to remember to turn off the auto-responder
when you get back ;-)
having said that I'd love a gmail invite - I wanna dig into their madhatter
javascript used in the clientside interface and learn a few tricks. so
if anyone has a spare ...?
> admin/postmaster/yourself (if your that lucky) to setup another
> account for you
....
[color=darkred]
BTW: Jason what server side autoresponder are you using?
....
rgds,
Jochem
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| Martin Norland 2005-01-24, 3:57 pm |
| Jochem Maas wrote:
> Nigel Jones wrote:
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On that note - why is it that vacation autoreplies get through to this
list, but if you dare to speak the dreaded o f f - t o p i c or [ O - T
] keywords your mail doesn't get through?
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> I don't use autoresponders - If I ever go away, I either:
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> a, take a laptop and check for urgent stuff.
> b, send important clients/colleagues an email saying when I'll be back -
> which takes roughly the same time as setting up the autoresponder and has
> the added bonus that you don't have to remember to turn off the
> auto-responder
> when you get back ;-)
Assuming you have this luxury. A bigger question is, how often are 'we'
(e.g. techies) in positions where we're away for so long, and so
immediately available to clients - but those clients don't know our
schedule? If I'm so 'in bed' with a client that they expect
instantaneous turnaround, I would just warn them directly - maybe my
experiences are unique. I just don't "service" a lot of people at a
time - I would think anyone who does either keeps communication open or
has others servicing them also.
> having said that I'd love a gmail invite - I wanna dig into their madhatter
> javascript used in the clientside interface and learn a few tricks. so
> if anyone has a spare ...?
Done.
Cheers,
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- Martin Norland, Database / Web Developer, International Outreach x3257
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those of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
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| Jochem Maas 2005-01-24, 3:57 pm |
| Martin Norland wrote:
> Jochem Maas wrote:
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> On that note - why is it that vacation autoreplies get through to this
> list, but if you dare to speak the dreaded o f f - t o p i c or [ O - T
> ] keywords your mail doesn't get through?
its a mad world. :-)
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> Assuming you have this luxury. A bigger question is, how often are 'we'
> (e.g. techies) in positions where we're away for so long, and so
> immediately available to clients - but those clients don't know our
> schedule? If I'm so 'in bed' with a client that they expect
> instantaneous turnaround, I would just warn them directly - maybe my
> experiences are unique. I just don't "service" a lot of people at a
> time - I would think anyone who does either keeps communication open or
> has others servicing them also.
good point, I indeed have the luxury of having a limited no. of (relatively
important) clients, this makes things easy.
>
Martin delivered the goods! many thanks to him, and anyone else who would
have sent one (if Martin hadn't gotten there first :-) )
rgds,
Jochem
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> Done.
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> Cheers,
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