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Author Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-NOTES] Note spam
Friedhelm Betz

2006-03-23, 6:59 pm

Sean Coates wrote:
> [resend: not sure why this didn't make it through, yesterday;
> re-sending; sorry if it's a dupe -S]
>
> Nuno Lopes wrote:
>
> Did we drop the double opt-in idea?
>
> - User submits a note (with valid email address)
> - We send mail with a token URL
> - User clicks URL
> - Note is approved and posted


Do we need to approve? I guess we have not enough "man-power" for that.
Simply post the note after we receive the token.

> Max 5 notes per address per day. Or x notes per domain/IP per day..


x notes per domain/IP per day will for sure not work. Think of people
behind proxies....

We should not limit the notes per day. To much to track, imho, no?

> Yes, the evil side COULD be automated, but it's a lot more difficult
> than a simple post.


I like this proposal, but Nuno's point stands: who's gonna implement that?

Friedhelm
Sean Coates

2006-03-23, 6:59 pm

> Do we need to approve? I guess we have not enough "man-power" for that.
> Simply post the note after we receive the token.


That's what I meant. Note is approved when the token URL is clicked.

>
> x notes per domain/IP per day will for sure not work. Think of people
> behind proxies....
>
> We should not limit the notes per day. To much to track, imho, no?


I suspect that these spammers would just register example.com and create
php0000001@example.com php00000002@example.com etc.

>
> I like this proposal, but Nuno's point stands: who's gonna implement that?


Not sure. (-:
I'd love to find time to do it, but I don't have it right now.

Either way, notes are a mess.

S
Friedhelm Betz

2006-03-23, 6:59 pm

Sean Coates wrote:
>
> That's what I meant. Note is approved when the token URL is clicked.


Ah, sorry, my misunderestimating or something this way ;-)

>
> I suspect that these spammers would just register example.com and create
> php0000001@example.com php00000002@example.com etc.


Yes, possible, but we can see and implement upperbound limit later ;-)

>
>
> Not sure. (-:
> I'd love to find time to do it, but I don't have it right now.
>
> Either way, notes are a mess.


Yes.

Friedhelm
Nuno Lopes

2006-03-24, 7:01 pm

>> Max 5 notes per address per day. Or x notes per domain/IP per day..
>
> x notes per domain/IP per day will for sure not work. Think of people
> behind proxies....


it already limits the number of notes per IP :)
last time I checked they were using zombie pcs, so they connected with a
different IP each time.

The CAPTCHA protection of bugs.php.net has also been broken by some bots, so
its not an option either..

Nuno
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