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requirement sorting - was Re: Code Coverage and QC

David Lightstone

2004-03-26, 11:50 pm

"John Roth" <newsgroups@jhrothjr.com> wrote in message
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> I've run across such managers. Since the Agile
> Invariant is that there will be a production quality
> deployable at the end of every iteration, the answer
> at the end of the iteration is: 100% by definition.
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> If you aren't doing that, you aren't doing Agile
> regardless of what you say you are doing.
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> I'm well aware of them. That does indeed apply to
> the requirements, which is why all agile methodologies
> I'm aware of sort the requirements by order of decreasing
> business value, and cut the development process off
> when you hit the law of diminishing returns.

This I find to be amusing. Sorting by order of decreasing business value. It
sounds so scientific, yet is probably so subjective as to be a
misrepresentation. Business value, pray tell how such value is determined.
Via an application of utility theory perhaps? or just subjective evaluation
made to please the top dog(s)?

John Roth

2004-03-26, 11:50 pm

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> This I find to be amusing. Sorting by order of decreasing business value.
It
> sounds so scientific, yet is probably so subjective as to be a
> misrepresentation. Business value, pray tell how such value is determined.
> Via an application of utility theory perhaps? or just subjective
evaluation
> made to please the top dog(s)?

Neither one. It's made by the customer. After all, they're
the ones that are funding the project. How they do it is
their business, not mine, and that's literally true. If one
asks me for assistance, I'll most likely suggest getting a
business consultant.

Please note once again - this is *clearly* spelled out in
the XP literature.

John Roth
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Ronald E Jeffries

2004-03-26, 11:50 pm

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:51:09 GMT, "David Lightstone"
<david._NoSpamlightstone@prodigy.net> wrote:

>This I find to be amusing. Sorting by order of decreasing business value. It
>sounds so scientific, yet is probably so subjective as to be a
>misrepresentation. Business value, pray tell how such value is determined.
>Via an application of utility theory perhaps? or just subjective evaluation
>made to please the top dog(s)?

It can be done as wisely or as casually as the business people choose.

How do you decide priorities?

--
Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
I'm giving the best advice I have. You get to decide if it's true for you.

David Lightstone

2004-03-26, 11:50 pm

"Ronald E Jeffries" <ronjeffries@acm.org> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:51:09 GMT, "David Lightstone"
> <david._NoSpamlightstone@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> It can be done as wisely or as casually as the business people choose.

Was that an answer or an evasion?

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> How do you decide priorities?

Probably the same way you do. In a manner consistent with the scientific
sounding statement/rhetoric made by John Roth.

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> --
> Ron Jeffries
> www.XProgramming.com
> I'm giving the best advice I have. You get to decide if it's true for you.

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