Extreme Programming - Re: Just say no to threads [Was: Software architecture]

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Re: Just say no to threads [Was: Software architecture]

Shayne Wissler

2004-10-31, 3:56 pm

"Debbie Craft" <d145@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10oa0ghfqur5fad@news.supernews.com...
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> Kevin Cline wrote:
>
> I have noticed this pattern a lot in XP. Something didn't work once so
> let's be afraid of that and never do it again. It's a particular
> animilastic response to your environment.

Indeed.

> If i worked on the yahoo site or ebay and had been successful, when i go
> to a new situation i am just supposed to start all over again like a know
> nothing? Seems like an enormous waste to me. Dealing with scale and
> customers etc would have taught a lot of hard won lessons.

True - but in XP it doesn't matter if you, as an individual, know anything.
What matters in XP is that the team understand and agree. And in order for
them to do that, you have to reduce everything to the lowest common
denominator. The kid fresh out of school gets the same say on an XP team as
does the guru developer. Just note the ad hominem that flies if you ever say
that some individual might be most qualified to lead the team, if you
mention the scary "A" word to some XPers they go nuts.

XP is a manifestation of skepticism in design (and I mean hard-core,
dogmatic philosophic skepticism a la Berkeley & Hume not "healthy
skepticism") and egalitarianism in ethics (and I mean cut down the tall
poppies/redistribute the wealth "equality" not "all men are created equal"
equality). So at root XP is really just an arm of a philosophic movement;
it's not merely a software process.

Shayne Wissler
http://www.ouraysoftware.com

Universe

2004-11-07, 3:55 am

Ronald E Jeffries <ronjeffries@acm.org> wrote:

> On 5 Nov 2004 23:44:47 -0800, kevin.cline@gmail.com (Kevin Cline)
> wrote:
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>
> Gee, I missed that one. Wish I had a copy!

If Dilbert were actually that lamely, *anti-funny* I would've stopped
reading it completely a long time ago.

You all are soooo....

Elliott
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Edward Berard

2004-11-08, 8:57 pm

Elliott,

In article <m48ro0lpo0n4hkppf32i9477spkdhiobpp@4ax.com>, Universe wrote:

> Ronald E Jeffries <ronjeffries@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
> If Dilbert were actually that lamely, *anti-funny* I would've stopped
> reading it completely a long time ago.

It may be that there is more than one Dilbert cartoon with this theme.
I seem to remember one that involved a consultant cruising through
the cubicles spouting database theory, and then being exposed to
"real code," with the same withering effects.

You can take some comfort in the fact that one or both of these
cartoons could be read several different ways, not all of them
favorable to "code lovers."

-- Ed

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