Repost : MPEG video Streaming on Windows CE

This is the information which I found after carrying heavy search in
google groups and websites..
I'm developing one application for video streaming ie one MPEG file
which is on webserver I've to run it on emulator of Windows CE5.0. The
following tools I'm using ...
1) EVC++4.0
2) Platform Builder 5.0 (for design OS)
3) Windows CE standard sdk 5.0
During search I found one more sdk...from mpegTV website ie
(mtvp-sdk-wince3.0-1.2.2-1 and mtvp-sdk-wince-0.1) this is contain a
sample code for pocket pc 2002 and 2003) Which is not working properly
with windows cE 5.0 OS
.
You will find in google groups itself I've put lots of queries
regarding media player and video streaming from this you can guess how
much I've been wandering to achieve my purpose....So thinking abt the
new software engineer who will going to start this application can get
good help...I'm putting this question like discussion....

After everal searches this wht I found:
1) Windows Media Player dosen't support Mpeg2 format on windows CE OS.
(from some groups query I came to know that windows Media player 10
seriese supports it but it is only available in latest mobile devices
not on emulator). So next option is directshow method.


2) for MPEG video streaming i have use directshow method. Again in this

method I need some filters. For particularly MPEG I have to concentrate

on transform filter which is responsible for decoding. I've searched
MPEG decoder but still some doubt. Can desktop filter work for windows
CE platform. if not then I again have to go for desiging the OS or,
mpeg4 will enough for this purpose which allready there in widows ce
OS?


3) Suppose I found the mpeg codecs then how to use..I didn't find any
proper documents or good sample code so that i can study and make my
own application.


3) If i plan to purchase a thrid party control (activex)..for this
pupose. can anyone suggest me where i can find demo version of that
control because I have to make demo applicatoin to show my client and
then only i can purchase that control. morever I don't have any
physical device so the control should work well with emulator..


Please share your knowledge not only for me for all the software
engineers who are struggling and wandering for these things...


Thanking you


Navin Salunke

FYI:

PocketTV (www.pockettv.com) can play and stream MPEG on Pocket PC and
Smartphone.

There are other MPEG codecs and applications available for WinCE, for
example TCPMP (aka Betaplayer) uses a variety of open-source MPEG codecs.

There is lots of open-source code available, if this is what you are looking
for.  Commercial code is also available, but rarely free.


"smartslack" <navin.salunke@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140266983.278343.129840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> This is the information which I found after carrying heavy search in
> google groups and websites..
> I'm developing one application for video streaming ie one MPEG file
> which is on webserver I've to run it on emulator of Windows CE5.0. The
> following tools I'm using ...
> 1) EVC++4.0
> 2) Platform Builder 5.0 (for design OS)
> 3) Windows CE standard sdk 5.0
> During search I found one more sdk...from mpegTV website ie
> (mtvp-sdk-wince3.0-1.2.2-1 and mtvp-sdk-wince-0.1) this is contain a
> sample code for pocket pc 2002 and 2003) Which is not working properly
> with windows cE 5.0 OS
> .
> You will find in google groups itself I've put lots of queries
> regarding media player and video streaming from this you can guess how
> much I've been wandering to achieve my purpose....So thinking abt the
> new software engineer who will going to start this application can get
> good help...I'm putting this question like discussion....
>
> After everal searches this wht I found:
> 1) Windows Media Player dosen't support Mpeg2 format on windows CE OS.
> (from some groups query I came to know that windows Media player 10
> seriese supports it but it is only available in latest mobile devices
> not on emulator). So next option is directshow method.
>
>
> 2) for MPEG video streaming i have use directshow method. Again in this
>
> method I need some filters. For particularly MPEG I have to concentrate
>
> on transform filter which is responsible for decoding. I've searched
> MPEG decoder but still some doubt. Can desktop filter work for windows
> CE platform. if not then I again have to go for desiging the OS or,
> mpeg4 will enough for this purpose which allready there in widows ce
> OS?
>
>
> 3) Suppose I found the mpeg codecs then how to use..I didn't find any
> proper documents or good sample code so that i can study and make my
> own application.
>
>
> 3) If i plan to purchase a thrid party control (activex)..for this
> pupose. can anyone suggest me where i can find demo version of that
> control because I have to make demo applicatoin to show my client and
> then only i can purchase that control. morever I don't have any
> physical device so the control should work well with emulator..
>
>
> Please share your knowledge not only for me for all the software
> engineers who are struggling and wandering for these things...
>
>
> Thanking you
>
>
> Navin Salunke
>

Thank you for your response. I didn't even expect that this response
will be from pocket pc....Well, during the search every search pointed
me to this site. So I'd gone through this side thoroghly. I've
downloaded most of all the opensource code and tried but wht I found
problem is as follows..

1). This is source code only works with the Pocket pc 2002  and Pocket
pc 2003
2). I put the query how to use pocket TV on emulaotr. I got the answer
that I have to use real device. Right now I don't have any real
device.. i've to make a demo on Emulator only..
3).If any codec available on Windows CE then How to use them with
emulator. do I have to rebuild the windows CE OS?

It is not like that i'm just putting my queries on finding the
problem,I've struggled to finding out solution after that only I'm
putting this query. So please don't break this discussion you have made
my hope for possibility....And I know nothing is impossible......

Thanking you

Navin Salunke

Thank you for reply. During the search for Video Streaming on Windows
CE 5.0. Most of all discussion led me to pocket TV. So I'd gone through
this website. "Download sdk","Open sourcodes" available on this site.
But this sourcode not working with the Windows CE 5.0 emulator. Even
I'd tried with Pocket pc 2003 Emulator but still it dosen't work.
Perhaps it works  only with real deivce..is it true ?? (1)
I want to make a demo application so that I can show it to our client.
But for that we don't have any real device..After approval by client
only we will going to purchase new device and control..

If I've MPEG-4 in my OS of windows CE5.0  will it work for Video
streaming...(2)

I also came to know that for Video Streaming I've to go with MPEG-2
format..is it true ???(3)

If I have to write program for video streaming it means that I should
have mpeg filter graph for decompress which should be in my Development
os(ie Windows XP) and My Target OS (Windows CE5.0) . is it true?? (4)
if yes then from where I can get this??(5)

By your reply I found some  hope of Possibility.. I putting this
question after lots of search... I've tried my best to develop this
application and to find the answer of this suspected questions....

Thank you very much once again

Regards

Navin Salunke

> There are other MPEG codecs and applications available for WinCE, for
> example TCPMP (aka Betaplayer) uses a variety of open-source MPEG codecs.
>
Can you give some more samples?   TCPMP is not really open-source.. nor any
of its codecs.

"The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
news:OBKz6UrNGHA.1028@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> FYI:
>
> PocketTV (www.pockettv.com) can play and stream MPEG on Pocket PC and
> Smartphone.
>
> There are other MPEG codecs and applications available for WinCE, for
> example TCPMP (aka Betaplayer) uses a variety of open-source MPEG codecs.
>
> There is lots of open-source code available, if this is what you are
> looking for.  Commercial code is also available, but rarely free.
>
>
> "smartslack" <navin.salunke@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1140266983.278343.129840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... 
>
>

> Can you give some more samples?   TCPMP is not really open-source.. nor
> any of its codecs.

TCPMP is open source.

see http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/download

"smartslack" <navin.salunke@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140527701.802075.223030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Thank you for reply. During the search for Video Streaming on Windows
> CE 5.0. Most of all discussion led me to pocket TV. So I'd gone through
> this website. "Download sdk","Open sourcodes" available on this site.

PocketTV is not open-sourse, therefore not available (except under
commercial licensing).

> I also came to know that for Video Streaming I've to go with MPEG-2
> format..is it true ???(3)

no, video streaming can be done with other formats, including MPEG-1 and
MPEG-4/h.264

> If I have to write program for video streaming it means that I should
> have mpeg filter graph for decompress which should be in my Development
> os(ie Windows XP) and My Target OS (Windows CE5.0) . is it true?? (4)

probably not true. it depends what type of streaming you want to implement.

> if yes then from where I can get this??(5)

i don't know if what you everything you are looking for is available as
opensource code.

> By your reply I found some  hope of Possibility.. I putting this
> question after lots of search... I've tried my best to develop this
> application and to find the answer of this suspected questions....

By the way, the source of TCPMP 0.72 can be downloaded from:

http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/...0.72RC1.tar.bz2

Please do not post direct links to anything... rather the top page...
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test

After the 0.72 reelase we will no longer be using this 'test' site and
all release will be done on http://www.corecodec.org for our open
source BetaPlayer version.

Thank you very much for guide this answeres gave me not only enough but
good amount of information..now I'll try my best to make this MPEG
video streaming on windows CE 5.0 emulator..
If success I'll inform you..to just say thanks...

Regards
Navin

It seems you have to request the source me emailed (or perhaps a hidden
link).  Has anyone doen this and what is the turn-around time?

Thanks.