scheme coding help...

andreuri2000@yahoo.com writes:

> On Mar 29, 4:55 pm, Griff <gret...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>
> Ehm.  That's a program twice the length of Shakespeare's "Hamlet"
> that prints 13 characters.  Not quite as bad as the proverbial
> monkey at a typewriter, but nothing to brag about either.

Ah, but it does more than "Hamlet" with less resources.

To interpret "Hamlet" you need a pack of actors and a scene.
To interpret hello-world, you only need a few grains of sand and some
electrons.

And the script of hello-world, with tis 240KB surely is able to react
to some strange conditions you don't even imagine, like I/O errors, or
different kind of output devices.


So the question, is whether you prefer thick or thin interpreters
vs. thin or thick scripts.

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__Pascal Bourguignon__

On Apr 1, 9:30 am, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
wrote:
> andreuri2...@yahoo.com writes:
> 
>
> Ah, but it does more than "Hamlet" ...

Don't be silly.

> And the script of hello-world, with tis 240KB surely is able to react
> to some strange conditions you don't even imagine, like I/O errors, or
> different kind of output devices.

Really?  Why then does the following program

1

On Apr 1, 9:30 am, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
wrote:
> andreuri2...@yahoo.com writes:
> 
>
> Ah, but it does more than "Hamlet" ...

Let's get a life.  The program displays 13 blooming characters.

> And the script of hello-world, with tis 240KB surely is able to react
> to some strange conditions you don't even imagine, like I/O errors, or
> different kind of output devices.

Really?  If I/O is why it is so big, why then does the following
one-character program

1

have to compile to 342,138 bytes?

Andre

On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:55:31 +0200, Jens Axel Soegaard
<invalid@soegaard.net> wrote:

>Ray Dillinger skrev: 
>
>If memory serves me, on the "Manuals" page in the HelpDesk there
>were a "Download all" button.

Looking at it right now, there is no "download all" but there is a
list of what has not yet been installed with the link to download it
... assuming that link works 8-)


For Ray: I also do a lot on laptops.  I look at optional stuff and
download whatever I think might be important immediately when I
install the software.  Only rarely have I missed something critical
that stopped me until I got a connection.

I know a lot of people don't like to carry around huge installations
on their laptops, but honestly what else are you gonna use those 250GB
disks for?  Porn?  Better not let airline security examine your drive.
Besides which, it is very hard to use MSDN effectively online.


>In the SVN version the HelpDesk has been replaced with browser friendly
>documentation.

Probably a smart move but not crucial AFAIC.  Years of exposure to
MSDN has numbed me to using dedicated help browsers.

George
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George Neuner wrote:
 
>
> Probably a smart move but not crucial AFAIC.  Years of exposure to
> MSDN has numbed me to using dedicated help browsers.

Hopefully the new HelpDesk is easier to navigate than MSDN.
I always get lost in MSDN ...

Here are the new docs:

http://pre.plt-scheme.org/docs/html/

If you haven't seen them before then the Getting Started
series is worth a read.



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Jens Axel Søgaard

andreuri2000@yahoo.com writes:

> On Apr 1, 9:30 am, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon)
> wrote: 
>
> Let's get a life.  The program displays 13 blooming characters.
> 
>
> Really?  If I/O is why it is so big, why then does the following
> one-character program
>
> 1
>
> have to compile to 342,138 bytes?

As I said, because you've got a dumb interpreter, in the form of a
microprocessor with whatever OS you put on it.   You don't believe
such an interpreter is smarter than, let's say, even Leonardo Di
Caprio, do you?


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__Pascal Bourguignon__

Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote:
> As I said, because you've got a dumb interpreter, in the form of a
> microprocessor with whatever OS you put on it.   You don't believe
> such an interpreter is smarter than, let's say, even Leonardo Di
> Caprio, do you?

This Intel-bashing is getting out of hand!