regex of the month (decade?)

Yanick Champoux schreef:
> *dieresis* or *diæresis
>
>    Well I, for one, never knew that such a thing existed.  Neato!  Too
> bad the name of the mark, though, which is definitively unfortunate.

According to the infallible Wikipedia, this diacritic is also called a
trema. Only if used as a seperation mark, not as an umlaut.

HTH

Eugene

Yanick Champoux wrote:
> Chris Dolan wrote: 
>
>    A quick use of Google-fu unearthed a blog entry
> http://www.dwelle.org/archives/2007...l-the-umlauts/,
> which in turn pointed to the page
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/profirst/d.htm that says:
>
> *dieresis* or *diæresis   *A diacritical mark (* ¨ *) optionally used in
> English, oftentimes replaced by a hyphen. In English, the dieresis is
> used on a second identical vowel to indicate a change in pronunciation
> of that vowel or indicate it is pronounced in a separate syllable. It is
> sometimes referred to as an « umlaut » when used with a single character
> or in a « diphthong. » Examples: reëlecting, reëncoding, coöperation,
> coördination.

Because, ya know, I always get  about how to pronounce "reelecting".
Thank god they cleared that right up!  And with an easy to understand symbol
that everyone knows about! :P

Really they just want to be more metal.  Soon it will be ¡KömpUsërV.DøøM!


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There will be snacks.

Michael G Schwern wrote: 
> 
>
> Really they just want to be more metal.  Soon it will be ¡KömpUsërV.DøøM!
>

And to thing that, all those years, I laughed at Spinal Tap's claim
to be avant-garde and visionary geniuses.  They were right.  All that
time, they were right...

Joÿ,
`/anick

Chris Dolan wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, David Landgren wrote:
> 
>
> Haven't I read that you live in Paris?  I figured that anyone who lives
> in a country whose dominant language was not fully expressible in ASCII
> would love Unicode.

I do, but then again French is fully expressible in Latin-1... except
for the oe ligature (œ).

I worked with a French programmer a few years back who spent much of his
career working in government computing circles. Apparently when the
national European computer organisations were thrashing out what
characters should go where in the 128..255 high ASCII slots, his
colleague at the time, who was representing France in one of the
discussions, was out of the meeting having a coffee.

At that point, a vote was taken, and the result was that some other
accented character like ý or something made it in at the expense of œ.
What did get in were the decidedly less useful Æ and æ ligatures.

> On a major tangent, have others noticed the resurgence of the umlaut in
> printed English?  I keep seeing things like coöperation or coördinates
> -- particularly in Technology Review, but in other publications on
> occasion too.  Is that because it's *supposed* to be spelled that way,
> but ASCII and the typewriter have suppressed that spelling for my lifetime?[/color
]

Funny you should mention that. I read about this first maybe twenty,
twenty-five years ago proposed as "the way things should really be" but
never saw it in use. Then last w I read two articles on two different
web sites that used this convention. I found it quite jarring. What's
next, "welcome to the reäl world?"

David

David Landgren <david@landgren.net> writes:

> At that point, a vote was taken, and the result was that some other
> accented character like =C3=BD or something made it in at the expense of
> =C2=9C. What did get in were the decidedly less useful =C3=86 and =C3=A6 =
ligatures.

Quite interesting discussion over all, but also quite off topic, so I
joined until now. Which is most usefull of the french oe-ligature or
the scandinavian letter =C3=A6 I don't know.

But part of the explanation should be that the scandinavian delegates
pushed for '=C3=A6' to be accepted as a full letter and not just an
ligature. This succedded and therefore '=C3=A6' got included in iso-8859-1,
and I'm quite sure that iso-8859-15 makes the same distinction.

In english '=C3=A6' is still considered a ligature.


But as a non-ascii using european I prefere iso-8859-1(5) to
unicode. Much easier to work with, but I havn't really had the need to
mix different alphabets.=20


> but never saw it in use. Then last w I read two articles on two
> different web sites that used this convention. I found it quite
> jarring. What's next, "welcome to the re=C3=A4l world?"

But only if the pronouncation 're-al' would become widespread.

//Makholm

On Jan 14, 2008, at 16:42, David Landgren wrote:

> What's next, "welcome to the re=E4l world?"

Well, no, because the "a" isn't pronounced as a separate vowel. On =20
the other hand, we may start seeing references to El Camino Re=E4l in =20=

Silicon Valley.

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