Can Macs reliably handle Zip files?

Can Macs reliably handle Zip files?

I clicked on links in some email letters addressed to me, which led to
Web sources via Safari that automatically downloaded these large TIFFs.

I found out later that two of the files – downloaded in different
download folders – are damaged. (I can't get their page setup to show up
properly under Photoshop's File > Print > Print > Paper Handling >
Destination Pager Size.)

Instead of the correct custom page setups showing up there, one shows up
as Super A1, and the other as 30 x 45 cm (Sheet - No Margins) and then
the prints print vertically instead of horizontally.

I re-downloaded one of the files and it's still not working right. I'm
downloading the other one again now, too. (It's taking about 45 minutes
per file to download.)

These problems aren't occurring in any of my other files.

Robert

In article <EaPIj.24551$_v3.13817@edtnps90>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block@north_woods_adventures.net> wrote:

> Can Macs reliably handle Zip files?

I assume you really mean TIFF files.

The answer is yes - Macs have *better* support for TIFF than most other
platforms.

> I clicked on links in some email letters addressed to me, which led to
> Web sources via Safari that automatically downloaded these large TIFFs.
>
> I found out later that two of the files _ downloaded in different
> download folders _ are damaged. (I can't get their page setup to show up
> properly under Photoshop's File > Print > Print > Paper Handling >
> Destination Pager Size.)
>
> Instead of the correct custom page setups showing up there, one shows up
> as Super A1, and the other as 30 x 45 cm (Sheet - No Margins) and then
> the prints print vertically instead of horizontally.
>
> I re-downloaded one of the files and it's still not working right. I'm
> downloading the other one again now, too. (It's taking about 45 minutes
> per file to download.)
>
> These problems aren't occurring in any of my other files.

It's possible the file is corrupt on the server. Post the link and I'll
verify that.

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In article <EaPIj.24551$_v3.13817@edtnps90>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block@north_woods_adventures.net> wrote:

> Can Macs reliably handle Zip files?
>
> I clicked on links in some email letters addressed to me, which led to
> Web sources via Safari that automatically downloaded these large TIFFs.
>
> I found out later that two of the files _ downloaded in different
> download folders _ are damaged. (I can't get their page setup to show up
> properly under Photoshop's File > Print > Print > Paper Handling >
> Destination Pager Size.)
>
> Instead of the correct custom page setups showing up there, one shows up
> as Super A1, and the other as 30 x 45 cm (Sheet - No Margins) and then
> the prints print vertically instead of horizontally.
>
> I re-downloaded one of the files and it's still not working right. I'm
> downloading the other one again now, too. (It's taking about 45 minutes
> per file to download.)
>
> These problems aren't occurring in any of my other files.


Robert-

This does not sound like a downloading problem.  If a zipped TIFF file
downloads with no error message, and un-zips with no error message, then
you probably have a faithful copy of the original file.

The problem you describe sounds like these large TIFFs are just large!
You should be able to select a different paper size, and change from
horizontal to vertical in Page Setup.

Perhaps Photoshop is selecting a page size determined by the number of
pixels in the image, based on some number of pixels per centimeter.  A
larger image has more pixels, so that would call for a larger page until
you specify otherwise.  Whether it is horizontal or vertical may be
determined by a Photoshop default, as would the margins.

Fred

Fred McKenzie wrote:
> In article <EaPIj.24551$_v3.13817@edtnps90>,
>  Robert Montgomery <info-block@north_woods_adventures.net> wrote:
> 
>
>
> Robert-
>
> This does not sound like a downloading problem.  If a zipped TIFF file
> downloads with no error message, and un-zips with no error message, then
> you probably have a faithful copy of the original file.
>
> The problem you describe sounds like these large TIFFs are just large!
> You should be able to select a different paper size, and change from
> horizontal to vertical in Page Setup.
>
> Perhaps Photoshop is selecting a page size determined by the number of
> pixels in the image, based on some number of pixels per centimeter.  A
> larger image has more pixels, so that would call for a larger page until
> you specify otherwise.  Whether it is horizontal or vertical may be
> determined by a Photoshop default, as would the margins.
>
> Fred


Thanks, Fred and Jolly.

This is such a bizarre problem.

I'm not sure if I should give the link to the file for security reason,
as it's on my supplier's server.

Every time I go to File > Print > Page Setup, I'm able to select the
page set up I want, and the image looks fine in the File > Print image
window, but when I proceed to File > Print > Print > and scroll in the
Copies and Pages pop-up window to "Paper Handling", for these two files,
the Destination Paper Size always says:
"Use document's paper size: 30 x 45 cm (Sheet - No Margins)" (which is
NOT the right paper size)

and below that there is the option "Scale to fit paper" and to the right
of that is the correct page setup size option, but if I select that
"Scale to fit paper", and then press the print buttom in the driver, the
paper advances about six inches too far onto the paper roll and then the
file prints vertically instead of horizontally, so I'm wasting a lot of
paper and have little control over the printed outcome.

Should I ask the sender to send me the same files on a DVD?

Robert

Fred McKenzie wrote:
> In article <EaPIj.24551$_v3.13817@edtnps90>,
>  Robert Montgomery <info-block@north_woods_adventures.net> wrote:
> 
>
>
> Robert-
>
> This does not sound like a downloading problem.  If a zipped TIFF file
> downloads with no error message, and un-zips with no error message, then
> you probably have a faithful copy of the original file.

So that means the original file (a color scan) would need to be re-shot?

> The problem you describe sounds like these large TIFFs are just large!
> You should be able to select a different paper size, and change from
> horizontal to vertical in Page Setup.

I have to be able to see the file in the correct setup to figure out how
it'll look before printing. Also, the paper advances several inches too
far before printing begins with these two files, so I don't have enough
control over printing, and Preview is inflexible to print from also
because it doesn't give control like Photoshop does.

Robert

Robert Montgomery <info-block@stargate_tech.net> wrote:

> Fred McKenzie wrote: 
... 
...
> Should I ask the sender to send me the same files on a DVD?

I agree with Fred that this doesn't sound like it has anything to do
with downloading or with zip. In fact, I wonder why you even bring up
zip, as I don't see the correlation. If there is a correlation, you
certainly don't provide any data about it. The word "zip" doesn't even
appear in your posting except in the subject and the question of the
first line. I have to guess that the files in question must have been
zipped, because otherwise it seems a complete non-sequitur. Even then,
you say that the problems aren't occurring in any other files, but you
don't give any correlating information about why that makes you think of
zip. For example, you don't say something like that these are the only
files that were zipped.

Without some such information, it just sounds like you pulled "zip" out
of thin air for no obvious reason. One might as well ask whether Macs
can reliably handle files on Wednesdays. Yes, it is Wednesday (at least
here and now), but that's not much basis for suspecting that it has
anything to do with the problem. Sure, it is technicaly possible to have
a bug that shows up only on Wednesday, but one needs a little more
concrete basis for suspicion before one starts looking into every random
thing like that, because there are literally an infinite number of such
random things one could ask.

I'm not sure what the problem is, but whatever it is, it sounds like an
issue with the original files. If that's the case, there isn't any point
to investigating alternative ways to get those original files. If the
files are bad, then the files are bad. Getting them via dvd isn't going
to change that. Nor is, to pull another random thing out of the air,
accessing them via a dialup connection instead of broadband.

--
Richard Maine                    | Good judgement comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgement.
domain: summertriangle           |  -- Mark Twain

In article <ooSIj.15183$pb5.1018@edtnps89>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block@stargate_tech.net> wrote:

> Every time I go to File > Print > Page Setup, I'm able to select the
> page set up I want, and the image looks fine in the File > Print image
> window, but when I proceed to File > Print > Print > and scroll in the
> Copies and Pages pop-up window to "Paper Handling", for these two files,
> the Destination Paper Size always says:
> "Use document's paper size: 30 x 45 cm (Sheet - No Margins)" (which is
> NOT the right paper size)

It's quite possible the way the TIFF was created is limiting the paper
sizes.

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In article <ooSIj.15183$pb5.1018@edtnps89>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block@stargate_tech.net> wrote:

> This is such a bizarre problem.

Robert-

I agree.  It doesn't make sense.

1.  Try opening one in Photoshop and Save As some other format.  Then
see if the problem still exists in the other format.  (This way you
won't mess up your original, just the Saved-As version!)

2.  Try opening one in a different graphics program.  See if the other
program complains about your file, or if it handles it with no problem.
Apple's Preview.app would open a 28 Megabyte TIFF file I tried.  If you
don't have GraphicConverter, you can download a trial copy at
<http://www.lemkesoft.com/>.

3.  Are you one of these people who never shuts down the computer and
leaves programs running?  If so, you might restart the computer and
Photoshop, just in case something has been corrupted.

Fred

Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <ooSIj.15183$pb5.1018@edtnps89>,
>  Robert Montgomery <info-block@stargate_tech.net> wrote:
> 
>
> It's quite possible the way the TIFF was created is limiting the paper
> sizes.

How might that have happened?

Fred McKenzie wrote:
> In article <ooSIj.15183$pb5.1018@edtnps89>,
>  Robert Montgomery <info-block@stargate_tech.net> wrote:
> 
>
> Robert-
>
> I agree.  It doesn't make sense.
>
> 1.  Try opening one in Photoshop and Save As some other format.  Then
> see if the problem still exists in the other format.  (This way you
> won't mess up your original, just the Saved-As version!)

I did that. I saved as EPS. Didn't work. I saved back to TIFF. Didn't work.

I saved as Mac byte version. Didn't work. Saved back to IBM byte version
(which it was originally).
>
> 2.  Try opening one in a different graphics program.  See if the other
> program complains about your file, or if it handles it with no problem.
> Apple's Preview.app would open a 28 Megabyte TIFF file I tried.  If you
> don't have GraphicConverter, you can download a trial copy at
> <http://www.lemkesoft.com/>.

My Graphic Converter has expired.
>
> 3.  Are you one of these people who never shuts down the computer and
> leaves programs running?  If so, you might restart the computer and
> Photoshop, just in case something has been corrupted.
>
> Fred

I restarted twice to install Epson 7600 printer driver twice and to try
to clear out bugs.

Robert