Newswatcher and Supernews

In article
<jollyroger-300AD6.15060631032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Apparently there's a widespread lack of comprehension among Usenet
> provider support personnel. Here's a similar response to the same query
> from NewsGroupDirect.com where it's apparent they do not understand that t
he
> mere existance of headers in posts does not equate to those headers
> being included in the overview.fmt database:

If you don't mind send the same query to news@individual.net.

I'd ask them myself about the headers but it would be interesting to
see how they respond to the same wording as you sent to the others.

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In article
<jollyroger-44B2D6.14563731032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Oh I missed PayPal - good catch.  Then this is a possibility. If you
> figure out how to contact them and get an comprehensive answer, please
> post here for the rest of us!

One thing about individual net that would not be a problem for me, but
might be a problem for others, is that they don't carry binary
newsgroups.

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In article <310320081610205545%fort514@mac.com>,
Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:

> In article
> <jollyroger-300AD6.15060631032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>
> If you don't mind send the same query to news@individual.net.
>
> I'd ask them myself about the headers but it would be interesting to
> see how they respond to the same wording as you sent to the others.

Done.  We'll see.  : )

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In article <310320081617261101%fort514@mac.com>,
Charles <fort514@mac.com> wrote:

> In article
> <jollyroger-44B2D6.14563731032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>
> One thing about individual net that would not be a problem for me, but
> might be a problem for others, is that they don't carry binary
> newsgroups.

No problem for me. I'm not interested in binary posts, other than an
occasional curiosity. Most of my news access is purely textual.

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In article <310320081455010710%maser@umich.edu>, Steve Maser
<maser@umich.edu> wrote:

> In article < 310320081136415713%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbal
derstone.ca>, Dave
> Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote: 
>
>
> FWIW, I'm not...
>
>
> But that said -- having been subscribed to Supernews for a couple of
> years now...
>
> Why should I be worried about Giganews buying them out and taking them
> over?
>
> I had little problems resetting my groups list (checked all groups this
> morning, then redid my group list after the server swap.)
>
>
> Am I missing something that makes Giganews "evil"?  Everything (so far)
> seems exactly the same to me as before the swap (after rebuilding my
> group lists/article numbers of course...)

I've no opinion on "evil". I am seeing a loss of functionality that I'm
trying to work around. In aprticular, I'm unable to filter on certain
headers that I use EXTENSIVELY and I am seeing a huge amount of spam
that I KNOW Supernews used to kill at the server.

I'll be considering these factors over the next w or so while
weighing a switch to individual.net.

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In article
<jollyroger-4A5735.14163931032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <310320081455010710%maser@umich.edu>,
>  Steve Maser <maser@umich.edu> wrote:
> 
>
> Count yourself lucky. You're probably not subscribed to news groups
> where we are seeing it. What you probably don't realize is you're
> actually missing posts in other news groups.  ; )
> 
>
> Yep - and it;s a safe bet you missed posts as a result.
> 
>
> Giganews doesn't include a lot of headers in their overview.fmt
> database, so you will only be able to filter on these specific headers:
>
>     Subject:
>     From:
>     Date:
>     Message-ID:
>     References:
>     Bytes:
>     Lines:
>     Xref:full
>
> If you want to filter on any other headers, you'll have to switch news
> providers.

References: seems to be broken here. Is it working for you?

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In article < 310320081425373895%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbal
derstone.ca>,
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

> In article
> <jollyroger-4A5735.14163931032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>
> References: seems to be broken here. Is it working for you?

I do have filters that look at the References header, and MT-NewsWatcher
is not showing the 503 error message when I view subscribed news groups.

How do you mean "broken"?

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In article
<jollyroger-C84344.14125231032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article < 310320080959517107%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbal
derstone.ca>,
>  Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> 
>
> Does individual.net include all headers in their overview.fmt database?

Dunno. They've been spoken highly of in supernews.general and
supernews.support. They use the filtering software that Andrew wrote at
(the old) Supernews.

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In article
<jollyroger-6410AE.14364831032008@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> I wish I knew. I was unable to find a contact link on their web site.

news@individual.net

<http://www.individual.net/contact.php>

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article < 310320080959517107%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbal
derstone.ca>,
>  Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
> 
>
> Does individual.net include all headers in their overview.fmt database?

I have a filter on Newsgroups.

You could just install leafnode on your Mac. The bandwith of pulling
down the spam is hardly going to kill a broadband connection.

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